Greetings All,
I recently purchased a foldable knife for my everyday use. It is D2 tool steel. It is very sharp out of the box.
Anyone have a particular opinion of this material as far as sharpening condition and keeping the edge?
Thanx!!!
D2 is an excellent steel that has been around for many years. Keep in mind however that not all D2 is the same, not all knives are the same, and the quality of a knife is more than just the steel. I have a degree in Mechanical Engineering and worked for many years with tool and die makers and machinists who used D2 to great effect.
There are a number of good knives on the market today which use D2. The Medford Praetorian is available with a D2 blade and no one will doubt its quality for example. But Iâd hesitate to count on a thirty dollar Chinese eBay knife regardless of the steel.
I havenât kept up with all the steels available for knives as Iâm in software engineering now and spend less time researching metals, but it is my understanding that D2 will not keep its edge as long, but itâs easier to put an edge on it. I saw the same phenomena decade ago when stainless first started being used. It wouldnât rust like D2, but it was the dickens to sharpen.
My purse EDC knife is a Zero Tolerance 0450CF in S35VN. My pocket carry (when Iâm not in a dress) and utility knife is a ZT 0350 in S30V. I didnât buy either because of the steel. Iâve sharpened both and they do fine. I bought them because they fit my needs, one is a very lightweight slim knife for my EDC purse carry. The other is a heavy âtoolâ knife.
Iâve got three or four Kershaw Cryoâs in 8Cr13MoV that are just sprinkled about for utility purposes, A Kershaw Launch 1 auto in CPM-154, a âTom Brownâ survival knife custom made in Damascus that lives in my get home bag, and a few âfield and streamâ Cabellas specials that are âextrasâ or âthrowawaysâ. Iâve given my daughter (who is a bit of a collector) and my son a few dozen knives over the years including autos, handmade fixed blades etc. Theyâve all been good quality and Iâve never had a failed knife in almost sixty years of carrying them EXCEPT a busted blade on a Buck 110 about twenty five years ago!
I also have a couple of âHome Depotâ brand knives that are also scattered about in tool bags, get home bags, my truck console etc. Iâd like to have a few dozen ZTâs scattered about like that, but cost is a factor. So my carry knives are the two to three hundred dollar ZTâs and I scatter âextrasâ about as a knife is a good tool to have available. I do the same with multi-tools. I carry a Leatherman Skeletool CX in my purse, but have about a dozen others in various sizes and brands including one that has a dedicated 1911A1 bushing wrench (in my 1911 range bag) that are in my console and glove box, tool bags⊠you get the point.
If your knife is a quality knife youâll probably be happy with it. Take a look at the videos of torture tests on Microtech knives vs counterfeit knives to see what I mean. D2 might dull a bit faster, but itâll clean up to an edge quicker. And no matter what the blade steel is, manufacturing quality of the steel as well as heat treat and manufacturing quality and components in the rest of the knife are probably more important.
I included a link below to a discussion of knife steel. You can TOTALLY geek out on this stuff and lots of folk spend LOTS of money on collecting knives. Lots of âsafe queensâ in these collections. I just use them as tools. I use my ZT 0450 to pop the zerk fitting covers off my trailer hubs for example.
https://www.bladehq.com/catâBest-Knife-Steel-Guideâ3368
There is something to be said for getting âexactlyâ the ârightâ tool, but D2 will do the job if it is manufactured and heat treated right.
Kate
Thanx for the reply Kate!
I liked that video. Way to abuse a knife
I hold to NCIS Gibbs rule #9; Always carry a knife. However, IMHO the best tactical pocket knife for the money is the Zero Tolerance (ZT) line. That said, Iâve never been one to go with an uber blade as an EDC.
My ECD is a 2.5 inch cheap WarTec assisted opening knife I paid $10 for a couple of years ago. If I lose or break it, I have several more to take itâs place without regret or tears. Itâs sharp as hell, does what I need it to do in my day, and is deceivingly non-threatening even at a second glance.
Not that I donât have various uber knives well designed to exceed any hiking, hunting or apocalyptic scenarios⊠I just donât see the need within my daily routine to impress the masses with the flash, whoosh & clack of deploying steel. Iâll leave that to the youngsters with something to prove.
D2 steel is a good steel. Blade shape, grind, and use will play a huge factor in deciding if it fits your application. One of my favorite knives is a lowly 420HC (Buck 112)⊠not counting my 89 cent box cutter. Iâll often grab it before my fancy S90V, M4, etc. knives, also because of the ease of sharpening. IMO, if you become handy with a sharpener, learn how to find and work off the burrs, use the knife as a knife and not a screwdriver, and have realistic expectations you will do fine.
Iâll add, that if you are planning on doing a lot of cutting on cardboard or fiberglass, just about any steel will dull rather quickly (hence knowing how to sharpen). Also, very shallow grinds with thick blade stock might have more resistance through certain material.
Quick dirty answer it dulls faster, but it sharpens and holds a good edge. Depending how deep you want to get into it, I can give you some sites to visit and such. I collect Damascus, most to look at but my EDC Kerambits, I use hard and have custom made.
There are a lot of good brand knives out there just to name a few; Spyderco, KERSHAW, SOG. Just to name a few. All good EDC knives.
Spyderco Delica
Smoke, thanx for the reply.
I recently got a 3.5 inch blade pocket knife for my EDC. It isnât an expensive one compared to whatâs out there. So, yes I agree with your approach to carrying a blade.
Thanx Scotty,
First time Iâve owned a D2 steel blade. It was shaving sharp out of the box. I use it on a daily basis for mundane chores at work as well as at home.
As for personal defense, if I ever had to use it (God forbid) it will not be the knife that lets me down.
Avoid Chinese steel. I buy American, and even some of the âAmericanâ knife companies use Chinese steel in some of their knives, so be careful. You can do a quick Internet query of the type of steel to find where it is made. Like Texas Kate, I like ZT. I also have a CRKT - yes, I carry two - that is also American steel. American steel does cost more, but I am willing and able to pay for it. Not only is the quality better, but support of US companies is important to me.
Here is a reference of some steel types available, including D2, the first is edge retention, the other, toughness:
The images above and this statement following, are from the link below. âD2 has good wear resistance, hardness, and adequate toughness.â
What I have also read is that there is a large variance in the lots of D2 steel produced, so some may have better properties than others, and it is dependent upon the knife maker for quality control.
@Rockmonster - I wanted to share a video that the gentleman who made my
knife. This is how he sharpens all the knives that he custom makes and the blade
comes very very sharp and doesnât lose itâs edge very easily. He made me a
persian fighter blade which I try very hard not to use and abuse. The video I
am giving you is just a suggestion. Mike.
Thanx for that video Mike.
I use the old whetstone for sharpening. The more I do the better I get at it.
Iâm kinda afraid of using a wheel for the very caution he brought up: grinding too much metal off the blade.
D2 is a great budget steel but can take some abuse. The knife community refers to it as the âworking steelâ. If you ever wonder what the steel consists of and how well it holds an edge, corrosion resistance, etc., here is a great chart that I refer to constantly!
Thanx @bmurph315.
So much to consider!!!
For me, I try to make the best choice between price and quality. Unfortunately price usually determines my choice.
Great site, thanx!!!
@Rockmonster Yeah blade steels really vary on their performance but at the end of the day, it also depends on the heat treat so sometimes when Iâm looking at some sort of high end steel, I typically want to find a knife from a well reputable manufacturer. I am a knife addict and I can talk about them for days. My wallet tells me to shut up but I canât help itđ
I hear you brother!!!
God bless
Awesome post!
#BuyLocal #BuyAmerican #BanMadeInChina
My edc knife is the Kershaw emerson I got from joining uscca