I remember 3… but I’m sure there’s more…
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Evidently you didn’t read what I wrote. I never advocated restrictions that would prevent anyone from doing anything. I said, at home no restrictions. CCW’s are by definition what you’re against because they require training, and are issued by the government. I also would agree with you if you said requiring a drivers license to drive a car or a big rig, having age restrictions, requiring insurance, requiring a pilots license to fly, or requiring an employer to hire only someone who can read and write infringements. USCCA should cover anyone who Carries, legally or illegally because otherwise would be an infringement. I know no one who wanted a gun or driver’s license who did not get it. I got my CCW at Gunsite in AZ. It wasn’t an infringement, it was as education. I’ve been shooting for over 62 years. Most of those years some sort of competition. I’ve hear the safety rules a thousand times. But before we go hot I glad the newbys heard what they had to say. I live in AZ and what l learned at Gunsite was an eye opener. AZ is constitutional carry state. If you don’t know the law you’re playing with fire. Not infringements, education. I lived in California, I’ve seen how gun laws evolve. We as gun owners better damn well get proactive, or the US will become the next Australia or Canada. Infringements no…Education yes. No one is denied! If you think “shall not be infringed” applies to education, then take up the cause to ban public education. USCCA is proactive in the area of education. If CCW holders come under the microscope for errors committed, CCWs will become obsolete! If education is viable for USCCA members, how much more valuable for the new gun owners. I know what the Constitution says, so do you. My concern is how the 9th circuit and ultimately the SCOTUS will interpret it. Our job is keeping the cases from going that far.
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I’ll say only this, you advocate no training or requirements to drive. If no drivers Ed, no requirements that show aptitude, you statistics that you love to show would be in the millions. They’re terrible to admit, and that’s with training. Imagine without training. You’d have to work remotely cause you’d never make it to work for all the accidents!
I take great offense to you saying I do I don’t believe in the right to keep and bear arms. I’m for education. I believe everyone should have the right to a job, but an employer is not infringing for not hiring a person who can’t read or write or do math for a cashiers job. Get the education and you get the job. No infringements. When the bullet comes through your wall and hits a family member, tell me about “education not required”.
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Hundreds is way too low. Just because someone hasn’t done something incorrectly and that it hasn’t been “published” anywhere, doesn’t mean they’re all capable. I suspect that the % of firearm owners that is incapable is well over 50%.
And even with “training” and “governance” drivers are dreadful. That is due to the low bar on both, IMHO. I don’t think that anyone is saying training is required to buy, but highly encouraged, easily available, fun to do, cheap, etc. go a long way to get people training, and allow training to improve, perhaps even grow to levels (not tied to what firearms one can buy).
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I’m seeing “examples” of people who already received training…training far beyond what anybody has stated should be required.
Thank you for proving that training doesn’t fix stupid.
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No they don’t. At least, mine never did, I’ve been licensed to carry a concealed handgun by 3 different states and non required training.
I understand some do, but many states do not, and have not, for decades.
And yes I am against requiring a permit as that turns what is supposed to be a Right, into a privilege. The best setup currently for a state to choose is Constitutional carry + shall issue permits for those who want them (mostly for travel purposes)
There is a big (huge) difference between government restrictions, and private. This is why, for example, I believe in Private Property Rights, and why I believe in private property owners being able to have no guns rules.
Also…I think you should brush up on the membership benefits of the USCCA, as this sentence makes me think you are not fully aware of how they work. Call anytime, the number on the back of your card. 
There is no ‘Right’ to a cashiers job (or any job) specifically and explicitly protected from infringement by the Constitution.
There is no Constitutional provision forcing an employer to hire absolutely anybody regardless of bona fide occupational qualifications.
The RKBA is different from the above, for good reason.
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If true, gun control, all the way to actively confiscating firearms to get them out of our hands, would make us safer.
I hope you don’t believe that.
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Do you know that this discussion goes nowhere, don’t you? 
Perhaps training doesn’t fix stupid, but for sure there’s always not enough of training.
Please quote my post where I advocated for no training to drive. Rather than create straw men, use logic and reason to rebut me. Neither did I ever state no one should know firearm safety, how to shoot, and our laws and rules on firearms. Please re-read my post and reply to my actual comments, not what you imagined I stated.
What? Of course it would. Just like all cars going missing would stop all car accidents. But…this isn’t reasonable or possible. So…we need a better plan.
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I must strongly disagree with your assessment that confiscating all of our guns would make us safer.
Guns are used for good, for protection, in lawful self defense, and in justified law enforcement actions, more than they are used negatively.
Guns are, as is often quoted and attributed to a lot of people, an equalizer. The demographic of violent criminals (young males) explains, in large part, why this is.
I propose that if you would be safer with your guns confiscated, it might be time to sell them.
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That’s okay. 
How about we expand on your idea. As part of your rebate program, upon successful completion of a certified safety course, the participant will receive the carry gun of their choice, a nationwide CCL good for life (unless revoked for cause), and a 1 year membership to USCCA. I think the end result would be cheaper than handing the ATF more funds to mis-use.
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It’s fun to pretend you have a magical genie from a lamp at a yard sale sometimes I guess lol
Actually if I had such a thing, a nationwide CCL wouldn’t be a thing because it wouldn’t be needed to net you any benefit
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Also, I’m opposed of the use of the word “mandatory” being used as an adjective in any context such as mandatory vaccination, mandatory service, etc. Anytime a politician uses “mandatory” in a sentence, it means something bad is about to happen.
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True, if nationwide carry was the rule. But, 'til then, I wish I had that Genie you spoke about. Dang. I just used one of my wishes.
I’m all about training and proven abilities when it comes to CC. What I’m 100% against is the list that “Mandatory Training” would produce.
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Mandatory firearm training is intellectually more important than right to keep and bear arms .
Bullcrap.
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