No Permit or Training Rrequired

This article says it all…

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Sounds like a plan to me, as long as I can still get my permit so I can carry when I travel to other states.

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Wow this would be great as far as our rights are concerned. Hopefully this is a stepping stone for every state. Great stuff and let’s get this passed.

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If training is the issue, then provide the training free. It could be a free course at all community colleges.

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Is “free education” ever really free? Free education is paid for by tax dollars. I would much rather not be taxed to pay for free education and pay for quality education of my choosing. :thinking:

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I predict that a lot of untrained and careless individuals will be carrying concealed and causing accidents just because they do not have to put out a few dollars and some effort to get their CC permit.

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No requirements period! It is our 2A right to be armed should we choose (Constitutional carry). It’s not up the the gov. to train us or educate us. Parents step up, peers step up. If the training is this important we need to help each other with education and instruction. I know this steps on the certified instructors toes but not all can afford the extra cost. When we talk to new gun owners why shouldn’t we offer help and education. Get the ball rolling and maybe they will show the initiative to further the training, perhaps not, free choice. We have sufficient gov overreach in all parts of our life. Let’s leave the 2A to stand alone unfettered. Placing useless costs to those who need it most and can’t afford it seems unjust.

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Both !

Many of us are trained and many talents. I have tried many companies to help train and I could not find any better Company, USCCA. The possibilities are endless in training and staying away from the many
endless incidents that all see today is the best
answer for all.

Everyone’s families need each other; please stay safe.

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Look at the 20+ states that now have some form of “Constitutional Carry”. I have not read any of your concerns coming to fruition. Actually, the stories I have read, have suggested more people in those states are getting training and CC permits/licenses so that they can carry in other states.

Rather than wonder, do the research; post your results.

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I am predicting what I think will happen…Explain how to research the future…EVERYONE needs continual training and practice shooting. Too many new gun owners will just purchase a gun and holster and then feel they are safe just because they conceal carry it.

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People have been predicting the same thing every time some state backed off the oppression of 2A rights a bit, and it never comes to pass. In fact, violence…and even firearms deaths…usually drop.

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How good do you think a lot of the required training is? In Louisiana, it is the basic NRA handgun class. If you are lucky, the instructor might show you a couple of holsters and some different handguns.

They do go a little into the laws of CC, but not really in depth. No training drawing from a holster, the qualification is not difficult at all. What other right requires a class and a test to exercise?

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I’ve been around guns since I was around 10 years old (1957) and had great training about guns from my Dad, several Uncles and my Grandfather. A lot of respect for gun safety and education over the years and lots of practice. I never have felt that I know it all have never believed that anyone knows so much that they can’t benefit from learning more.

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I agree @Gregory80 . I just don’t want it mandated by Uncle Sam.

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It’s one of those “common sense” conclusions, right? Like “55 Saves Lives,” except that was incorrect as well.

When an analysis is one-dimensional, it fails when applied to our three-dimensional world.

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I learned a lot from my CCL Permit classes, including from my classmates; It motivated and led me on now a life long journey of learning. It was invaluable to me.

One of my classmates did not drive, and could not get to the range for his qualifying range portion; I offered and drove him to and fro.

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I think my poke at Bidden/Sanders free college education was missed. I also believe that when a person pays for “education”, they work harder to learn the material.

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@Dave17, you speak truth. Great post. The statistics don’t bear these concerns out. They never have. Good job letting statistics do the heavy lifting!

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@Gregory80, respectfully disagree on a couple fronts.

First, the permit process and few hours of training that accompany it do not establish competency in operating a firearm. Second, the cost of the permit is miniscule compared to the cost of a quality firearm, holster, and ammunition. To suggest the permit cost is a deterrent to “careless individuals” simply isn’t accurate as well.

If you look at the statistics, the safety record of gun owners is admirable. There are, arguably, over 400 million firearms in the United States. Yet only 400 or so negligent discharges. Even if that number is underreported by a factor of 1,000, that is still 1/10th of 1% of all guns in circulation.

Everyone does need continual training. To suggest the Government would be proficient and honest at mandating that training is a fool’s errand.

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You can never stop learning. There’s always someone who can teach you something new as well. I agree with your comment. Well said.

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