And based or you crap attitude you don’t have any respect for that right do you?
It’s all about control, mandatory this, mandatory that, as you decide how it should be.
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If I may be so bold, this isn’t F-book. If you’re going to be acidic to those who don’t believe what you do, you might not be happy here.
Forums are a place for discussion (and listening). This one in particular is meant to be civil, like we’re supposed to be to one another. They aren’t for shoving everyone around until they submit to your (brilliant if often misguided) thoughts.
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Not exactly. It is our, pick your phrase, natural Right. It is inherent.
It is Constitutionally protected but to be as clear as possible the Constitution is merely officially recognizing that Right and protecting it (supposedly) from infringement. Have to be careful when writing to not let people think it means the Right comes from the Constitution
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Oh boy…
It was not about discussing 2A Rights… It was about how to approach the problem.
What is the problem?
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Read the first post of this thread.
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Does that mean “the problem” is whatever I decide it is?
I was asking you what you believe the problem to be.
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Ignore on…unreal.
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First words you have posted I agree with.
When did the meaning of “shall not be infringed” change?
You appear to be the one that is controlled, if you believe the meaning of the Constitution has changed. Please inform the unwashed masses when that occurred.
which is what? People that believe in our Constitution and our Constitutionally protected rights?
I will be polite and not tell you to go back to Socialist Poland, which, based on your comments, appears where you belong.
We all know your attitude, against our Constitution, and we know you are not “intellectual”. We have been more than polite with your obnoxious, stupid and ignorant posts regarding our RKBA. How did you pass the test to become a USA citizen with your attitude? Did you marry to be, or were politically, like Cubans, turned into a USA citizen?
It looks like we’re finding a way to ruin that last safe place on the Internet. Keep it up…
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Rather than a childish retort, reply to my post with something of value. Why did you come to the USA, if you do not believe in our Constitution?
You are projecting, again.
I appreciate the compliment.
We all know it was.
Some within this community, will lean towards firearms being a privilege; while others lean to it being a right; perhaps to some it’s a combo of both. We are going to differ in that respect. But we also have some common ground which unites us, and together we can accomplish more than alone, brothers and sisters.
On the way home from work today, I walked past an elder, he was sitting outside with a toddler, and another young child he was speaking with, sharing one of a million important life lessons. The toddler was eating an ice-cream cone, probably his first ever, by the expression of his angelic face.
As important as firearm rights are to me, that old man and his two grandchildren – to me – they are what it’s all about.
If there is an idea out there to help reduce even one accidental shooting of an innocent like that family I saw today, then I’m interested in hearing out that idea. I’ve nothing to fear.
As long as it does not infringe on our Constitutionally protected rights, I am willing to listen.
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When it comes to government control of The People keeping and bearing arms, you are naive to the world and to history if you believe there is nothing to fear with more control.
Also, if you are going to take the “save one life” angle, you must consider both sides of the scale. How many lives will be cost at the expense of the one saved? It’s like people talking about how many “gun deaths” foreign countries with strict control don’t have, without talking about how many defensive gun uses they don’t have. For example.
It’s disconcerting seeing discussions here devolve on a forum where so many people have so much in common. I would think that over 99.9% of the people here agree that owning and carrying firearms is vitally important to our ability to defend ourselves and our families. I believe a similar percentage would agree that negligent firearms use is a preventable danger. It also threatens our rights by providing ammunition to the anti gun crowd.
If a group of people with so much in common can’t have a civil discourse to find solutions we can all agree on, how are all the people with significantly more polar beliefs ever going to find suitable common ground to stop this country’s circle down the drain?
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No, your mirror is broken.
If you don’t mind me asking, what is your age, Dave?
It’s not, though.
Negligent ___ use is not a preventable danger. Insert whatever you want to ___. Firearms, knives, cars, chainsaws, laundry detergent, water, gasoline, molasses, swimming pools, you name it.
You can take reasonable steps, reasonable varying depending on what the ___ is to reduce those risks/dangers, but you cannot prevent them.
And in some cases, attempts at preventing negligence may be a net negative for a number of unintended (…or maybe secretly intended…?) consequences.
There is also something in here to explore regarding dangerous freedom vs peaceful slavery, or attempting to trade Liberty for safety
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Sorry, I just don’t see how finding ways to provide as many people as possible with solid education and training leads to slavery.