Probably no single strategy will buttress every scenario in these types of situations. But it’s always worth considering.
I thought the same.
If the first course of fire was fatal, all other rounds cannot be considered as murdering…
You cannot kill dead person… ![]()
I’m not getting your drift. Please attempt to clarify for me.
That point isn’t the aspect of this situation that people are wondering about.
When the guy is lying face down on the ground not moving with no gun in his hands and he is shot in the back of the head, he wasn’t a half second away from killing somebody. At that point, it’s not splitting hairs on defintion
I was speaking to Robert1246’s assertion that people who have guns and threaten to kill with guns are not the same as people who kill with guns, suggesting/implying that we might consider other options. (Such as talking the perp with a gun down.)
In my mind, they are similar enough to warrant a self defense response.
I’m thinking we’ll have to wait for an autopsy to get a professional opinion on whether the other shots killed him first.
I was taught if I have the time to question whether I should shoot I shouldn’t shoot. I am not trying to put anyones life in danger just trying to prevent the danger of going to jail or living with something on your conscience that doesn’t have to be there. Nobody would question if they should shoot with a gun pointed at them. If they did there would be no reason to have a gun.
It would be extremely difficult to pronounce someone “dead” before their execution, unless the doctor was a liberal; then it could in fact be likely.
Well FAFO
Oh I can tell you what killed him without the autopsy, covid.
Ummm not a stupid kid. Hardened Criminal who had a plea bargained 15 year prison sentence in 2015 for (a 2nd degree murder that he pled to an Aggravated Robbery) and was out on bond, for another robbery at the time of this robbery.
What I don’t understand is how he was on the street
No, we in no way are emotional like those that do not believe in our inalienable rights. I am not emotional when thinking about situations like these and how to react. Emotions will get you killed. Afterward, I might be upset that I got into a situation where I had to defend myself, or that the perp, by his/her ignorance and lawlessness, got me into a situation that required me to defend myself, but during the incident, my emotions will not get in the way of my defending myself.
I have not had to use a firearm in self-defense, but there have been a couple times that I drew one of my knives. I was not emotional then, but I berated myself later for not being situationally aware enough to have not gotten into that situation, and learned from that. I also learned that even when aware, one cannot always prevent getting into a bad situation. Reason being, the perp is the one that controls the game, we only get to react to their actions.
I think they are trying to get an emotional reaction out of us so they can make it political. If we react emotionally we will loose. Only the more reason for us to stay situationally aware. Physically and psychologically.
You are correct. People need to remember it is not the law that we have to get involved. It is different when it is your family. Hope you have a wonderful new year
In my reply to another member. There is a case on the book of a women being brutally being attacked. She shot her attacker several times. The prosecutor stated that her first shots were legal. When she walked toward the perp and shot him again she was prosecuted for murder. I also understand she went to jail.
Remember we do not by law have to enter any situation that does not threaten your life or others. But when you do you must obey the law. We cannot kill a person just because he was doing a bad thing. If you do enter the situation you must stop shooting as soon as the threat is over. You walk over to the person and shoot again you are in trouble. He is not at time a threat to any one unless he is trying to regain his weapon to continue the threat.
Law, even the greatest one is a set of rules… rules written by people. You cannot put emotions inside the frame of those rules… it will never work this way.
That’s why every single deadly incident is different and must be investigated and interpreted individually. Remember - “reasonably and prudent person” is not a machine with simple thinking “0” or “1”, “black” or “white”. There are several other factors that may justify shooting in situations where the same shooting won’t be justified.
Let sit tight and wait for the final verdict.
Hi Robert there are lots of people that makes an illegal shot and is not charged with a crime. It is up to the DA. We also have people that makes a legal shot and is convicted. I read the case of one man that was correct in killing a man in his house to protect his family. He was convicted and given several years in prison. It took this man eight years to find a lawyer to take his case and prove he was innocent. He was set free but eight years of his life was wasted. I do not know what happen in the case after that.
Hi Scott you are right. We should not have to second guess ourselves. However we must obtained the lawful way to solve the situation.
@William400 … compare the Taco shooting with this one… shooting in the back, no more threat… I’m guessing different punishment…
BTW… Welcome to Chicago. ![]()