Hi Yikes yest I think these guys wanted this man dead,dead,dead. Regardless of the penalty. Have a wonderful day.
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Just an opinionā¦ BUT I think many are getting really tired of the crapolla DAās
releasing the bad guys nearly right awayā¦ and are doing something???
is sorta a U.S. thing that if history is to be believed has happened beforeā¦
might be a good time to start talkin to people about the right of a jury to REFUSE to convict???
judges hate it so much they do NOT tell the jury they have that rightā¦
comes from merry olde IIRCā¦
the evidence can prove the situation BUT the jury can just say NOPE not happeningā¦
sorta sayin were I in that situation I would have done the sameā¦
and I will not punish this person for doing soā¦ refuse to convictā¦
which upset the feds big time back in the 60ās in the southā¦
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Donāt be too sure. Take into account that despite all the camera-phones and eyewitnesses, not everyone is going to ārememberā what happened. What if the āheroā is some type of honcho with a local āhonest businessmenās clubā and everyone conveniently forgets what happened, or didnāt see anything? Happens every day in every big city with a murder problem. The āheroā didnāt seem too broken up by mag-dumping a dirtbag. To me that says heās either: a āpro,ā has done it before, or is a Veteran who isnāt phased by cleaning out the gene pool.
Just my $0.02. (Hope the IRS doesnāt tax me on that)
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Wowwwwww!!! Is why I carry, and I donāt play games, and I treat everybody right, because when itās time to defend, Iām doing it with that same commitment, same integrity, and the same righteousness. Complete and total. When the threat stops being a threat then Iām done, and not until thenā¦ No comebacks allowed.
This was hard to watch without context.
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This is true, but I donāt think a reasonable and prudent person can say that an unconscious unarmed guy lying face down is an imminent deadly threat or poses an imminent threat of serious bodily harm or death (or whatever language)
RE: The above discussion, I do think it is a disservice to imply itās okay to shoot an unconscious guy in the back of the head because even reasonable people who take the responsibility of carrying a gun are subject to uncontrollable emotions that lead to killing
He might not be charged because the jury might nullify or the DA might not see fit, but, make no mistake, this is an example of what not to do.
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A CCW carrying American do not like to shoot anybody, they donāt even like anyone to know they are armed, CCW carriers are generally the most peaceful people there is and very nice and respectable and they received much respect just for being a nice person
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This is the fundamental disconnect we face. Prosecutorās have far to much agency, as it pertains to self defense. Live in a Conservative State, where you have Conservative Prosecutors, most likely response, atta boy hereās the keys to the city, and your own book/movie deal.
Live in a Liberal State, with a Liberal Prosecutor. Send in SWAT, omg he defended himself against attack from a person who just got out of prison (you animal that guy you shot was just starting to turn his life around! What are his 7 kids from 7 different Mothers going to do now?).
Iāve had a more than passing interest in law over the years, I honestly can not tell you what the outcome of a self defense incident is likely going to be. Until I check to find out where the incident happened at, first.
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Gang members killing someone that ādissedā them or member of another gang? Whatever the issue, not law-abiding citizens defending themselves against an armed assailant.
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Interesting. May also appreciate an attorneyās thoughts on ā¦
āWhen we are ever in court being reviewed over our self defense actions, are they really just judging our emotions during the incidentā?
Seems like itās a big part of it.
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Wow William400. Thatās compelling. In no way making light of the subject brother.
Yes Sir, even when a wild animal (bear, moose, big cat) which was injured or killed, the authorities do investigate it to determine if it was ājustified/good/ethicalā, Vs if wrong-doing occurred.
Lots of respect for all life.
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Thatās called jury nullification. Depending on how the Prosecutor takes it. The State can just sit another jury and keep doing it over and over.
You have to have a directed and definitive verdict of Not Guilty. Before double jeopardy can come into play. So if you have a hung jury or a jury nullification. Prosecution, can learn from it and try you over and over (this a possibility, not a certainty). Until a verdict of Guilty or Not Guilty has been reached.
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I think the laws are rational they are judging if we acted emotional or acted with in the law.
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ā¦too, we have to remember that if charged; he would not be charged for what was done within applicable law. He would be charged for what was done as an infraction to applicable law. I used the word āinfractionā loosely.
Bottom line here is, when we press that trigger, itās because weāve āmade the decisionā to shoot. We have to rest there. And if there are consequences to be borne that the law cannot relieve me of or support me in, the decision to shoot was my own. In other words, I considered for myself the risk of action vs the consequences of inaction to determine whether it was worth going to jail over or dying for. Remember, "Never point your firearm at "anything that you are not āwillingā to ādestroyā and āNever put your finger on the trigger unless you are on target and have āmade the decision to shoot.āā
A serious responsibility I fear many take too lightly.
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Jury nullification is not a hung jury, it is a jury deciding Not Guilty when the law as written would otherwise indicate the person is Guilty, but the law is so repugnant the jury cannot convict.
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You are correct.
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Well, itās been 5 months since the perp was put down. I have been trying to find the results of the Grand Jury determination, but have found nothing.
Because I know the mainstream media would have broadcast the results on every front page if the defender had been found guilty, I can only surmise that the Grand Jury found the defender āNot guiltyā, or has not yet reached a decision. Iām guessing itās the former.
Can any keyboard warriors out there find out more information? It seems like the entire story has disappeared after about January 16.
This is where the case number can be input to find the status of the case, but I cannot find the case number anywhere.
https://jpwebsite.harriscountytx.gov/courts/CaseInquiry.do?pageid=Case%20Activity&pagecode=AC&clr=Y
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Those were fricking great shots !
The robber run really fastā¦
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What do you think? 50ft. Running L to R. One of the hardest shots to make with a pistol. 
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Not so hard if you train for thisā¦ but still one of the toughest shots to make.
We discussed a lot about training something more than just making holes in the target lined up 20 - 50 ft away.
That what we have just seen is a reality.
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