Agree with the outcome or disagree with the outcome?
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I donât mind the decision not to charge, but I would strongly urge that nobody think that means they can do the same thing and avoid charges/conviction.
That could very well land a person in prison for some degree of manslaughter or murder. Not for the first shots, butâŠ
/not a lawyer
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This guy got EXTREMELY LUCKY!
No other way to put it
This is not how the outcomes usually are in this climate of
BASH the Gunner. Demonize the Gun owner, The murderous Sheepdog.
'HOW DARE HE DEFEND HIMSELF (AND OTHERS!)
He should have just bent over and given his possessions, his ride, his Life!
(Because thatâs how Progressiveâs are doing it in Chicago!)
He should have asked: 'Excuse me wonderful Brother, turning your life around
(from being and continuing to be a skell POS) 'Is that a real gun or made by âMatelâ?
âTake my wallet please!â
This guy could have easily been J6âed, Kyle Rittenhoused, Thrown in the hole and throw the hole away.
He should hit his knees and thank GOD he is home tonight.
BUT, he STILL may not be out of the woods, thereâs got to be aggrieved family reprisalâs!
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Yeah, the guy is lucky but Iâm glad he walked out free man.
We have thousands paragraphs of Law which say strictly what can or what cannot be done in certain situations⊠but life is not black and white only. Sometimes our actions are not exactly predicted to fit written Law.
This was one of examples when right action doesnât fit the Law⊠or perhaps the Law doesnât describe exact actions.
The truth is the guy did what every prudent person would do - he saved lives of people in that restaurant, even it was âsaving livesâ based of the knowledge he got at that moment. What he did next was very emotional, perhaps not smart, but somehow understandable by grand jury.
I strongly agree with the outcome.
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I agree in substance with what you are saying viewing this incident from a purely self-interest standpoint, but the decision is also correct because of the chilling effect it is likely to have on those in the criminal community who also might be tempted to try the same MO. The introduction of the unknown element of his victim being armed and able to defend himself is why Professor John R. Lott, Jr., in the course of his research effort to prove that guns contribute to more crime, was forced to change the title of his now famous book to âMore Guns - Less Crimeâ.
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I also, No question! But I stand by my point HE GOT LUCKY!
You donât shoot a person in the head when they are already DOWN!
At the end of this vid he stood over the Skell and gave him at least one to the back of the head!
You donât do that and NOT get the silver bracelets, Villified in the MSM press, Hung out to dry by the likes of the Soroâs backed 'Progressive DAâs 
and remain FREE!
YES: the armed Victim was pissed off!
YES he was sick and tired of the CRIMâs Crimming all over him and Americanâs
YES: he had the balls to do something about it! Good for him ! BRAVO!
Iâm glad he wasnât charged!
YES: He threatened everybody in the place! Scaring the crap out of the customers
He took his time saw an opportunity and took the Ahole out! Job well done Boot!
But looking at recent history if we do that sh we will be strung up and bashed to death like a Piñata
The Progâs think we should be all little sheep and waitfor the whack over the head.
Usually we are.
THIS GUY without a doubt GOT LUCKY!
WE need to keep our heads âIFâ we are in a shoot
We need to be prepared for the Consequences if we take JUSTICE/Pay Back too far!
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Who knows.. perhaps he was already dead? You cannot kill dead person⊠
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Isnât that called âfor good measureâ
Perhaps, hypothetically, the gunman still had the gun in his hand and started to raise it? 
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Disagree.
It seems to have worked out reasonably well for him in this case, but, letâs recognize thatâsâŠnot what we want people to generally be doing
Edit: I get the full assessment. Thatâs fair
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So, what you would do in such case?
You sit in that restaurant, guy starts pointing the gun on everybody, you have opportunity to engage⊠what next?
Stop the threat, and stop shooting after the threat is stopped
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So⊠this is what I wrote.
He stopped the threats, he did what every prudent person would do.
What he did next was a different story.
That was a true meaning of my words.
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Roger, gotcha.
Thatâs a fair assessment
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TRUTH!
You do stupid stuff like the âCoup de Graceâ like this guy did and you CAN lose your FREEDOOM, Your HOUSE, You JOB! Familil Lawsuits (and they would WIN!) A PRUDENT Person BACKS the Phuck off after the situation goes down from CONDITION RED!. You stand on his hand until he releases his GAT, You
go to a safe distance and Call the Man. Itâs every personâs RIGHT to defend them selves. What is NOT youâre right is to be executioner. You stopped the threat, BRAVO. You saved people Lives/possessions! EXCELLENT. Ratchet it down now, back off and be ready for the questions and Consequences.
Get your mind right, Call USCCA/your pre-programmed Lawyerâs number in your cellphone.
You practiced/trained how youâd do something when the SHTF! Practice what you will do/say AFTER a shoot. You can CONVICT yourself (in the eyes of the Law/Courts by saying stupid, unnecessary stuff).
Regain your witts, compose yourself and say something likeâ I am ready to cooperate with you but I need to wait until my USCCA lawyer gets here and advises me on my RIGHTSââŠsomething like that.
This guy got lucky.
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I didnât follow that incident and Iâm not sure if âextra roundsâ were taking under consideration or they only try to decide if the actual shooting was good or not.
I think the shooting act was easy to decide, but those extra rounds were really bad.
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While I agree with the point others were making - the guy got very lucky - I hope the society in large is fed up with the crime wave, and juries will treat future cases accordingly.
Dont expect it will apply to you though! Follow self defense guidelines from USCCA.
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Oh Brother are you speaking GOSPEL!
(MOO!âMy opinion only)
Yes Sir! I always expect every action Iâve take and will take in the future will be scrutinized to every âiâ dot and âTâ crossed! Especially in THIS Climate! EXPECT to get HAMMERED after a shoot!
Even if I do EVERYTHING correctly, donât go too far! Stay within the Lawful parameters
I EXPECT to have this ILLEGAL LAW to descend on me. THAT is why I have the USCCA!
I TRUST Tim and the USCCA to have my back!
I DO NOT trust the illegal system, the Courts and ESPECIALLY the Jury system!
I donât TRUST these woke Demon-crats in my town to be FAIR and Just! The Blue DAâs No way!
My Training is updated frequently, My Trigger time is super important. I carry 24/7.
I KNOW my gatâs inside and out (and I know Iâm NOT a gunsmith!).
I found an EXCELLENT Gunsmith to take my sh** down, check for wear, cracks etc.
I DONâT reload my own stuff yet, Not when I can buy a case of stuff I trust without a doubt in my mind.
I KNOW my limitations.
WE ALL SHOULD!
Training
Muscle memory
USCCA
more Training
TRIGGER TIME
Friends/Fellow Gunners
I LOVE MY Life, and I LOVE MY FREEDOM and no ahole is going to take that away
(and I am NOT going to hand my FREEDOMâS over to anybody on a platter because I couldnât keep my SH together)
Just mi dos Pesos
adonde nosotros vamos uno nosotros ir todo!!!
Nessun passo sul serpente
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Ab-so-F___ng-lutely!!! agree Don102. This was not a war zone. You stopped the threat. You need to strap back up, call the cops, and call your lawyer. Not put a hydra-shock in his head! I agree with the results. I donât agree with the irrational behavior of the good guy. Now if the perp had taken a shot at me and missed, then all bets are off.
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(I LIKE THAT Comment! 
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if they fire on YOU all bets for them being on the sunny side of the grass tomorrow are off! I agree.
But then you have a bullet hole in a wall somewhere,(hopefully not in an INNOCENT!) a fired Gun, PROOF, indisputable proof you DEFENDED Yourself. Returned fire when fired upon.
These days we have to be smarter, sharper and safer than the Crimâs. We have to PROVE we acted in self defense. The Crimâs can have a rap sheet longer than their arms, yet Family and Progressive DAâs/Courts can listen to theCrimâs family saying âHe was turning their life aroundââŠyeah sure by terrorizing a Fast food place and robbing them threatening to kill them? Yeah, they are turning their life around right after this last Armed Robbery, kidnapping, RAPE! Hey maybe rehab! and now we have HOW MANY ILLEGALS INVADING THIS COUNTRY??? How MANY MILLIONS!
But Don, they are just escaping persecution! Looking for a better life! Proving by their first act entering this country ILLEGALLY? I think that argument is dead in the water before it startsâŠ
WE are All Children of Immigrants, came to this country for a better life, Our Great Grand parents did it Right, We followed the Laws right from the get!
These people are âTRAFFICKERS!â of Children, MULES (Fentanyl, Crack, Heroin) They are Gangstaâs, MS13 KILLERS, SOLDIERS!, and TERRORISTS!
No matter what the Good Guys/White Hats (If you believe they existâI do by the way)
There is going to be a FIGHT, we are going to have to root this infectious disease out and exterminate them. TOO HARSH? We waited too long.
Close the Border TIGHT
Carpet bomb the south side of the fence
Send a MESSAGE plain and Clear: THE BORDER is closed! PERIOD.
Destroy the Cartels, ALL OF THEM. their money cannot buy safety anymore
We defeated the British, We can do this again. But we have to find our BALLS!
They will stop coming when they understand we arenât Phuckinâ around anymore.
âBoop. another Watch List!â whoopsie!
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