Absolutely.
Roger that. Very valid concernsā¦probably because itās already occurring (e.g., red flag raids).
Love herā¦
Very true brother @brett12ā¦welcome to the Community!
I believe that this would be a very bad mistake as it would pit brother against brother and last time this happened we had the American civil war. Hopefully it would escalate to article 10 as someone stated and the president could then call off the national guard. But again I feel this would be the fuse that could lead something worst.
Soooā¦ they basically went with āno commentā
Hereās an alternate link for the story
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/474556-virginia-national-guard-responds-after-dem-lawmaker-suggests-it-may-be%3Famp
The Adjutant General responded exactly as he should have. It serves no purpose to speculate what the NG will do if given an unknown order to take unknown actions on a law that has not been enacted. And I guarantee the JAG will be very involved in whatever happens. If they act, this could make Kent State look like a playground squabble. I think it would be more likely that the VA State Police would be the ones called on to act and even that will be resisted.
@MikeBKY Iām good with their not wanting to stir stuff up.
Still, Iād really have preferred if they said āxx is outside the scope of the governorās powerā or something like what @Patrick47 said ā¦ āUnder Title 10, the Guard follows the orders of the Presidentā.
Iām guessing Iām not the only one without the education to know exactly what is allowed, or without the faith that the laws will be applied correctlyā¦ evidence the ācould he do that?ā calls the Guard is getting.
When we have elected officials making āusā and āthemā comments including threats to turn military forces against citizens, I want a bit more than āno commentā.
In Louisville, for two weeks leading up to the Kentucky Derby, the Kentucky National Guard is used, along with state, federal and local law enforcement, to assist in providing security, crowd and traffic control during the Kentucky Derby Festival, the Kentucky Oaks and Kentucky Derby. They also come in for the Breederās Cup when it is in town every few years. The Adjutant General reports to the Governor, not the President, unless the President calls them up for National service as the Kentucky Air Guard has done many times in the War on Terror.
I worked these events in Louisvlle every year I was with the Jefferson County SO and for a few years with the Oldham County SO.
I no longer go to Derby events. Been there done that. Got the tee shirt(s)
You are so right Zeeā¦I call it tyranny and our founders gave us a remedy for it.
I wrote to my representative about thisā¦
Congressman Mike Johnson is usually swift to respond, Iām going to see
what is going on in the minds of Conservatives on a federal level.
Although, he canāt speak for Virginia, If he could just be voice in crowd that
would be good.
Good point. I do think the context was different and it happened while the area was in crisis. Still, there are lessons to be learned from that experience. One of which is that Democrats will exploit a crisis at every opportunity.
I know you were responding to Zee. However, I must say I agree with your assessmentā¦for the most part. I for one, with two tours in combat zones, am not excited about civil war 2. But letās acknowledge who is poking the tiger with a stick (over and over). Itās a combination of oversees interests, as you alluded to, and domestic socialist/communist wannabeās for their own personal gain. American Patriots/Constitutionalists will only take so much poking from a stick. Again, most of us donāt want war (it will take years, if not decades, to recover from), but socialism and communism will definitely take everything we own, including dignity, freedom, our money, our homesā¦need I go on. You get the point. We will NEVER get any of it back.
Apparently we arenāt the only ones interested in how the national guard will/can be used:
@Zee Thanks, the second to last paragraph appears to answer my Title 10 question. If the Guard is activated it can be stopped or better directed by the President.
In 1954, Arkansas Gov. Orval Faubus directed the National Guard to āpreserve the public peaceā by turning away black students during the court-mandated integration of Little Rockās Central High School. President Dwight Eisenhower reversed that decision by federalizing the stateās entire guard, ordering it to protect the students.
Patrick47 you are seeing things with clear eyes. First, thanks for your service. Second, we cannot be lulled into thinking that there are Patriots on the other side. If their voting for these leftist they are voting for socialist/communist ideologies and IMO that makes them supporters of this anti-freedom movement we are suffering through. Good post my friend, keep standing watch.
Thatās a great nugget of information, thanks for sharing it from that article, @Greg1!
Meanwhile, Puerto Rico is taking a giant leap in the right direction.
In 1954, Arkansas Gov. Orval Faubus directed the National Guard to āpreserve the public peaceā by turning away black students during the court-mandated integration of Little Rockās Central High School. President Dwight Eisenhower reversed that decision by federalizing the stateās entire guard, ordering it to protect the students.
I could see the VA NG being federalized by 45!
Good to see Virginians fighting back. We need to support these Patriots.
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