Threats of Arson and Violence in the wake of the election

[Kevin1776]

@Catburd

I would start by removing all bumper stickers from your vehicle and especially any election signs from your lawn. I promise you, you’re not changing anyone’s mind at this point.

I understand your concern up to a point.

Perhaps because we have caved/cowered so much in the past, it has now gotten to the point where I dare not have a thin blue line sticker on my car or for that matter fly the American flag in my yard. I dare not trigger someone or I risk being shamed, vandalized, or attacked. Conform your behavior and your thoughts to what the left demands OR ELSE!

So we are just supposed to accept that that is the way it now is? Yes I can still vote, but be careful about those lawn signs, right? Do you honestly believe this situation is going to improve? How soon before the right to free speech in all forms (when even something as trivial as a sticker causes rage) is just gone?

Enjoy the brave new world.

[Scott52]

@Catburd

This is not kowtowing to an agenda. This is just being a gray man.

So how grey were you thinking?

@Catburd

How strongly we live up to our convictions will always matter more than how loudly we shout about them.

I think these folks would disagree and probably should have shouted way louder. This is where we are headed. Suppressing any right, leads to the death of all rights. Silence at this point is BS. They were silent.

If I want a Trump sign in my yard t, there WILL BE a Trump sign, if I choose to place a punisher sticker on my car or a flag supporting my local law enforcement vandal beware. I aim for the head!

[Catburd]

I am the descendant of Polish Jews and your comparison of your “right” to shoot someone over your Punisher skull to the mass-murder of my ancestors is insulting to the memory of every dead end on my family tree. You need to think about the meaning of the things you’re saying.

[Scott52]

That’s not exactly the point, the silencing of one word lead to that atrocity! Some can tear down every monument known to man, but this will live forever, I will never allow this to happen again, EVER! it will be over my dead body, punisher skull or MAGA hat. This is a FREE country if they don’t like what I think and they aim to suppress that thought, like I said, I’m aiming for the head. Don’t think for one second this can’t happen here, it is! Right in front of our faces, we just don’t have the balls to shout louder!

[BillA1120]

@Catburd

I will not entertain the suggestion that anyone in the country who isn’t senile or afflicted with some kind of severe learning disability doesn’t understand that this election cycle is different. Showing any election signs is antagonizing someone. And the fringes have come a lot closer to the center than they usually do.

Sorry, this election cycle is no different than any other.

The difference this year are the extremists. Like 2nd Amendment rights, they take 1st Amendment rights one by one until they are gone. I hope the police find these terrorists, and charge them with every local, state, and federal statute they deserve.

I get what you are saying, but I believe there is no good reason to give into their demands. To do so only rewards the behavior. They can silence the opposition. First it social shaming, then it was getting people fired for having a different opinion, now it is threats of violence. There comes a time when you say enough is enough. If you wish to be silenced, then be silenced. It is a cultural war, that is on the cusp of becoming civil war. ( The letters mention civil war )

I prefer Patrick Henry’s point of view. " Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"

[FunCycle]

And with all of this you cannot get everyone to vote, but they will complain as to what is going on that they do not like.

[Scott52]

In that case, you should be the first one to shout and lead the charge!

[BillA1120]

Scott, I didnt take your post the way Catburd did.

I took it as when people refuse to stand up against tyranny, tyranny wins.

If you do not protect your rights, who will?

[Scott52]

It’s really good when people can speak more eloquently than me. When things get this emotional, I just let it out. This should never happen here! Appreciate your words!

[FunCycle]

Most times I think I am the only one leading the charge even here in Georgetown.

[Fred_G]

I get being the ‘grey man’. I get using common sense. But, if I want a (insert politician here) sign in my yard, why not? I have a thin blue line plate on the front of my car, and I am not taking it off. At some point, I will exercise my 1A rights.

"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."

[BillA1120]

@Kevin1776

So we are just supposed to accept that that is the way it now is? Yes I can still vote, but be careful about those lawn signs, right? Do you honestly believe this situation is going to improve? How soon before the right to free speech in all forms (when even something as trivial as a sticker causes rage) is just gone?

Its not just signs. The doublespeak has turned MAGA hats into “hate speech”, and now there are calls for "Truth and Reconciliation Commissions, where truth is decided by committee. We are being cowed, and our thoughts enslaved.

[Catburd]

I’m getting a lot of contradiction in what you’re saying. You’re saying things are perfectly normal and it’s just business as normal, then you say that we’re on the brink of a civil war. I agree with the latter part. It’s the former that I take issue with, and I’m not sure if there’s some kind of semantic point I’m missing.

There’s a radical demagogue on the right running against a radical demagogue puppeteering a senile old man on the left, and both sides have spent billions of dollars over the last four years systematically programming their respective sides to believe that there will not be an America on January 21st if they lose. They’ve been collectively fomenting an open conflict because it’s the only way for the duopoly to maintain ist stranglehold after decades of slow and steady erosion of our rights, our privacy, our quality of life, and our ability to function separately from the institutions.
In our lifetimes, it has never been like this, and the time for soapboxing is not two weeks before election day. Now is the time to be strategic, to put yourself in the best possible position to effectively and efficiently protect the people you care about.

Think about it like this.

We’re in a crosswalk here and a bus is headed our way. It doesn’t matter if we have the right of way because we’re pedestrians. What matters is that we acknowledge the bus isn’t going to stop, and that we have time now to decide whether we want highway service to have to squeegee us off the pavement because we were in the right, or if maybe it’s time to get out of the street.

[Scott52]

@Catburd

We’re in a crosswalk here and a bus is headed our way. It doesn’t matter if we have the right of way because we’re pedestrians. What matters is that we acknowledge the bus isn’t going to stop, and that we have time now to decide whether we want highway service to have to squeegee us off the pavement because we were in the right, or if maybe it’s time to get out of the street.

If it was that simple, I would stand down. I’m choosing the lesser of two weevils!
But I am extremely worried about the world my grandchildren will have to live in. I’m old enough to acquire a taste for dog and rat, I don’t think they are prepared to live in a world without rights!
Those images are me shouting as loud as I possibly can and keeping my ancestors in mind also! I feel sometimes I am on an island. Two words BIG TECH!

[Catburd]

I get where you’re coming from. But consider that in the same analogy, you can’t stop the bus from hitting someone else if you’re already flat. If you’re strategic about when to retreat and regroup, you at least have a fighting chance at round two.

Again. Right now, we’re not changing anyone’s minds with a bumper sticker.

It is my opinion that people are going to be targeted, and right now is entirely the wrong time for this country to suddenly come up short on people with compassion and conviction because they all picked the wrong hill to die on. Figuratively or literally.

[Scott52]

Agreed, well said. Blood pressure back to 140/80 give or take! We can’t loose this country, there’s no place else to go!

[Greg35]

What’s that saying… You’ve got to stand for something, or you’ll fall for anything.

I understand not waving the stars and stripes while traveling down the streets of Mogadishu , but standing down in your own home so your not attacked anywhere in America… really, are we there already??

Perhaps if ‘going grey’ doesn’t provide a sufficient element of appeasement you would consider redefining your language, erasing your history, or supporting lawless (I mean autonomous) zones wherever people feel they arent getting enough. Perhaps instead of stripping your identity so you won’t be attacked you can vacate your home so that someone more oppressed can ‘share’ in the fruit of the land???

If a bus runs one red light, get out of the way. If the same bus runs the light every day and starts destroying property and injuring people along the way…defund the police???

Most certainly discretion is the better part of valor, but when does going grey cross the line and just become yellow…???

Did those who died defending liberty, or even those who fought abroad so that your children would not have to fight at home, do so in order that you could fold your flag and cower…

Yes we do need to come off of the cliff on the far left, and on the far right, but we won’t get there by everyone in the middle cow toeing to either extreme. This is social engineering (4GW) at its finest,

[Alexander8]

@Greg35

I understand not waving the stars and stripes while traveling down the streets of Mogadishu , but standing down in your own home so your not attacked anywhere in America… really, are we there already??

Yes. Want your kids bullied at school, by their teachers? Want to lose your job? Yes, we are there.

[Alexander8]

@Catburd

your comparison … to the mass-murder of my ancestors is insulting to the memory of every dead end on my family tree

Neighbors had significant hand, if not participated directly, in the murder of my ancestors. People who lived side by side for 20, 30 years turned out capable of that, under right conditions. I find the “Dear Neighbor…” letter very concerning in this context.

[Greg35]

Final thought on the topic (for now).

Ever wonder why anyone with a flag is being branded a racist and anyone who supports equal rights is being branded as a communist in the ‘mainstream’, prevailing narrative, propaganda machine known as the media?

The vast majority of people do NOT identify on either of these extremes but are being forced into the box on one side, or the other, by the prevailing narrative.

Think long and hard and ask yourself ‘why?’. If you don’t like the logical answer, most likely supported by known facts and world history, then try this…

Roll up your flag, close your eyes, and click your heels…
Maybe it will all go away…

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