Soft Tyranny, But Still Tyranny

Sorry, but your conspiracy nonsense is just that: Nonsense.

Please put one foot in reality…

The raiders of the Capitol declared heroes??? Heaven forbid. Our founding fathers established a Republic for this country with a democratic system of government. Just because you lose an election ( AND TRUMP DEFINETLY DID LOSE), are paying more taxes than you think you ought to, or even have some restrictions on firearms you don’t agree with ( some I do not as well) does not entitle you to raid the US Capitol and interfere with the legitimate proceeding of the Congress to certify an election.
I am a firm believer in the RKBA . But at the end of the day, it is not our firearms that are our chief protector against tyranny. It is the democratic system of government that our founders gave us. The irony is that so many who fear a tyrannical government emerging are undermining the pillars of what most protects us against it. Although truth be told, many of these folks are really not patriots that believe in our Constitution and system of government at all. They are cult like, mesmerized , unmitigated Trump lovers who would gladly have an authoritarian system of government if it meant that Trump would be returned to power. Shame.

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“My attitude was: It was put-up or shut-up time,” said Barr. “If there was evidence of fraud, I had no motive to suppress it. But my suspicion all the way along was that there was nothing there. It was all bullshit.”

Barr later recalled the briefings he had with cyber-security experts who dismissed the idea that voting machines were rigged in some way to switch Trump votes for Joe Biden votes.

“We realized from the beginning it was just bullshit,” he said again.

True patriots will stop the B.S., accept that Trump lost, and try again in 2024

In Michigan, the Republican-led state Senate Oversight Committee said in a report released Wednesday that there was “no evidence of widespread or systematic fraud” in the state’s 2020 election. The report included a stinging condemnation of the lies about voter fraud pushed by Trump and his supporters.

“Our clear finding is that citizens should be confident the results represent the true results of the ballots cast by the people of Michigan,” the committee, chaired by Republican state Sen. Ed McBroom, said in its report. “The Committee strongly recommends citizens use a critical eye and ear toward those who have pushed demonstrably false theories for their own personal gain.”

True patriots will honor our system of government, accept that Trump lost, and try again in 2024

By contrast, Pence acknowledged the “disappointment” of defeat in 2020.

“Now, I understand the disappointment many feel about the last election,” he said. “I can relate. I was on the ballot. But you know, there’s more at stake than our party and our political fortunes in this moment. If we lose faith in the Constitution, we won’t just lose elections – we’ll lose our country.”

I think it fair to say that Mike Pence has impeccable credentials as a conservative Christian leader. Certainly better than Trump.
True conservative patriots will heed the call of all of the truly patriotic Republican leaders that are standing up to the B.S. about the election, relying on facts rather than ridiculous conspiracy theories, and moving on in a way that puts our country first and our constitution first

Do I believe this election was 100% on the up and up, no. The Michigan audit was just recounting the “votes” from election night.
Do I think we should audit the election, yes. Millions of taxpayer dollars were spent on the whole Russian Collusion conspiracy. Spend the money to show the voters that every vote was correctly, and legally cast.

Here’s the big one

Do I think Pence was wrong on the certification, no. I do not believe it is the job of the VP to pick and choose which group of electors he/she sees fit. If that was the case, then only one persons vote matters, that of the VP. I feel Pence was wrongly ostracized by Republicans, and DJT. I believe he was a loyal, and faithful VP, to the bitter end. I believe, he fulfilled his roll in the election, to the letter of the Constitution.

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Again, out of curiosity, how was political affiliation determined, and how was it released?

As to the election, you dang right I don’t believe it was accurate. Now, I can’t prove it, but how come Biden could not seem to fill up a convenience store parking lot during the campaign, and Trump filled up huge places? Lots of irregularities during the election. But, there is, to the best of my knowledge, no recourse, even if it was proven Trump won. So, I would like to have the election audits, so if there were issues, they can be eliminated in 2024, and other elections.

Oh, and we have a representative Republic. :grinning:

And anyone that riots, blm, Trump supporters, whoever, should be arrested and prosecuted to the extent of the law.

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The true difficulty lies in the fact that there are U.S. citizens who truly believe anything that CNN or MSNBC tells them. They are the ones who actually feel self-righteous in shutting down, wearing masks, destroying the economy, and lining up to get their covid shot. These same citizens show nothing but disdain for those who believe that all of this, the covid-scare, the covid shots that are not a vaccine, the total upset of an elections that happen after the polls closed is all very unusual and part of a four-year war on the group which stands for a government guided by the U.S. Constitution. And now, people like me are no longer “true patriots.” The sad things is, there is no way we will ever be a united country ever again. The war against Trump and the U.S. Constitution has been won - because of those who bought the MSM story hook, line, and sinker.

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100% false.

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well I dont agree with every thing that Biden is doing, but I will take him any day over trump, and yes a lot of the trump lovers cant except that he lost and he did LOOSE ,IT HAS BEEN INVESTIGATED BY THREE AGENCYS, oh by the way do people think that trump didn,t sick his puppets or cult followers to the Capitol,? they did not all wake up one day and go force chaos and destruction ,oh yes and murder, trump set the date of january the 6th, but he did not show up, we must have republicans and democrats, and not be one sided, i will take either one, remember no president ever has nor ever will please every one on every policy. proud to be in the greatest nation in the world , don, :smiling_face_with_three_hearts: :smiling_face_with_three_hearts: :smiling_face_with_thre:t e_heartslet politics divide us love and peace to all

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The only person murdered that day was Ashli Babbitt, and her murderer was never arrested, charged, nor prosecuted - not even identified.

Any proof that he did? Oh, right, as much proof as any other claims that have been disproven against him. You can still hate him as much as you like (pun intended). BTW, I am neither a Trump supporter nor a Biden sycophant.

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There are still people out there that believe brian sicknick was beaten to death on the capital steps with a fire extinguisher

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The people that claim Trump incited a riot hear all sorts of dog whistles, but not plain English.

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Have you watched the confirmation hearings on any of the pentagon nominees? They want to install the CRT into the military training. When I pushed boots, there were certain traits we wanted instilled in our recruits. We would never have taught them such discrimination. In fact, I never had any such thing happen in my companies. Now the top brass is pushing that and if we don’t fight, we will lose our 2A rights. We have to stand up and join the fight for the Convention of States. I am a volunteer for the state of Virginia and will work hard to get it passed.

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That’s disgusting…if anything, the military taught me how to be LESS selfish, self seeking or judgemental. I married a fellow Spanish soldier after joining, together almost 14 years now. Only at church and the military have ever I felt most unified with so many races and nationalities outside daily society. Although others here may vouch for their own experiences :thinking:

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I could not agree more ,you are 100 percent right , it is a shame some people cant except that he lost ,and he did loose

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Just like Stacy Abrams

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No voter fraud there… LOL

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@Dorothy Why isn’t our elected so called law makers screaming about this on any side.
Why doe’s this have to come from Tucker Carlson on Fox. :angry:

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That’s wild. Thanks for posting. Im am so glad I no longer serve militarily due to such a compromised and unstable government. I would not morally be able to partake in the betrayal of the Constitution or of the American people we were sworn to protect, especially not knowing these individuals backgrounds…

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