A question to all experts out there. Newbie shooter here again. The S&W 380 EZ (I am the one with hand problems, so this works for me) has two choices for purchase: grip-safety only or grip-safety plus thumb safety. Which would be the better choice? The range where I train only has one 380 EZ in stock and it is grip-safety only.
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BTW I just looked at that NOS S&W .22 WRM and itās a AirLite. 351-C , I havenāt seen it for about two years because I keep it in the living room in one of those clocks that opens to hiss those things in. If someone makes their way in here uninvited they will know itās ā time ā to go. Lol
Counterbored? Why?
Personally, I like the thumb safety, but thatās personal preference. The gun is carried ācocked and lockedā in that thereās a round in the chamber with the hammer pulled, and a pretty light trigger. The grip safety on these guns primarily serves as the drop safety. It puts a block in the action preventing the hammer from hitting the firing pin. The thumb safety gives you a bit of protection from accidental discharge in handling. Itās not necessary, but some folks like the added protection.
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I donāt know but I like counterbored guns, itās kinda strange itās not a smooth counterbore job but looks like a little mag wheel at the muzzle., could be some attempt at flash hiding , I mean although small it is a rifle cartridge that is as long as the barrel .
And the fire flies when shooting that little thing especially at night! Dam things a flame thrower! I gotta stop nodding out when Iām typing. It took me 20 minutes to type thisā¦ geesh
I love a thumb safety , I grew up with manual safeties on guns and thatās what I like and am used to. IMHO those ā safe action triggersā like Glocks have is a joke, they basically mean if you pull this trigger this will discharge and if you donāt it wonāt well duuuuh. I donāt need to hear some Poindexter tell me crap like ā youāre safety is right hereā as he is pointing to his head because Iām concerned about getting in a physical altercation and as someone is trying to take you down and the thing goes off down my leg where that artery is and bleed out in about five minutes.
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How does some of you feel about loaded chamber indicators?
Personal preference, as @Joseph488 mentioned.
In Shield EZ - grip safety is a mandatory safety feature, usually enough to avoid negligent discharge. If you stay within this platform, nothing more youād need.
However if you have any 1911 / 2011 style pistol as well, I recommend keeping thumb safety as a standard for all your handguns.
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For what itās worth I prefer a thumb safety as well, Im just used to them . I donāt like to carry guns w/o a safety such as a Glock, donāt get me wrong I love my two Glocks and if the fat hits the fire my 19 will be what I grab because nothing will send rounds down range like a Glock and I mean nothing but I donāt like concealing them
You are absolutely rightā¦ Nothing.
Even HighPoint shoots better.
Iām sorryā¦ I couldnāt resistā¦
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@Joseph488 and @Jerzees - Thanks. I believe the best option is to get both safeties to avoid incidental discharge. A side-benefit may be a slight (in seconds or fractions of a second) time delay if a bad actor were to wrestle the weapon away. A grip-safety may create a small time-delay (if the perp is unfamiliar with a grip-safety) to give the āattackeeā enough time to get a punch, kick, or jab in to the bad guyās vital parts. We seniors have to be creative. Not as fast or strong as before, so the brain becomes the primary defensive-action muscle.
I like my hellcat pro for those very reasons.
And, if you have control over your finger and you can keep it off the trigger until youāre ready to shoot why do you need a safety?
Iāll say, flipping up the thumb safety on my Smith did become second nature. It was one more thing youāre going have to do in a stressful situation. A lot of stressed people donāt get that safety off and they pull the trigger and nothing happens.
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@Jerzees no prob it was a good one lol , I just think that they will shoot without any hiccups for ever ( however long that is), I wouldnāt have one until my son said they were digging them up out of the ground and-or sand when they were looking for people and they would have full mags with them and he said they would shake them for a second or two and slap the mags in them and they wouldnāt quit ! And I saw a ā Tales of the gunā or something on the mil- Chanel and they said they would go and go because of the low toleranceās they were made to and said the bore was actually made just a half a mil or however much over to and that polyagonal grooves was all to keep them from fouling but I aināt a salesman for them for sure and I just thought when I saw that ā maybe thatās why I personally canāt get good accuracy out of themā so I guess itās a trade off aye?
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@Jerzees , Hell a couple years ago I went out looking for a Hi Point carbine and had to order the thing because everyone was sold out and couldnāt keep them in stock! I slapped a RD sight on it and itās still sitting upstairs and has never been shot! I ordered a 20 rd. magazine for it itās a wierd bent looking apparatus, anyhow I wouldnāt give $5 for any handgun they ever made but the carbines are pretty fun and cheap, we used to walk around the woods with them when my son was a kid but those days are gone heās 40 now and thinks he knows more than me about everything, he may know more about guns than me but not everything lol
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@Gregory232 , yea thatās what many say and you do have a good point but some also say what if a bad guy happens to get his hands on ur gun and points it at you and pulls the trigger and it goes ā clickā ( actually it wonāt make any noise will it because it wonāt fall) but you know what I mean and he has to remove his eyes to find said safety and then you can take him out with a punch or a EDC knife or whatever. But I know whatās next , ā a BG shouldnāt be able to get my gunā so I guess itās just one of those things that just donāt have a right or wrong answer. Actually I mostly carry pocket .380s anymore because of how I have to dress with a messed up leg and to much hassle to wear jeans and stuff anymore but my .380s have no safetyās but a good stiff first trigger pull and Iām plenty cool with that.
I donāt mind carrying my little G42 with no safety itās got a pretty stiff first pull. I mean I will carry with no safety and one up but just donāt love to do it , it just takes experience and discipline so if you gotta draw fast you donāt shoot your own foot or if itās in a place where other people are present you donāt hit a bystander.Just gotta watch yourself and I donāt always like watching myself so close all the time I guess.
Would love a revolver at some point.
I started carrying in 2020 with a Shield EZ.
Loved it but eventually wanted larger magazine capacity.
I now carry the Shield Plus with 13 and the 15 round Equalizer magazines.
I love it had about 4500 rounds through it.
Had a hiccup with the CT red dot not working.
Long story they sent me a shim as a fix it worked and then shot off during range time cracked screws and 2 smiths could not get them out.
CT sent me a new red dot and Smith&Wesson is currently replacing the slide.
They have great bundles on sale with the free red dot.
OK heās taken your unloaded gun from you and it goes click what makes you think he doesnāt know how to use a gun and heāll just pull the slide and fire.
I would suspect if it was a revolver, he would just pull the trigger again.
What makes you think youāre going to fight with this guy who targeted your weapon and disarmed you and win?
There are no guarantees in life.
Iāve been done with this one for days I want up the page and thought I was the only one on it I saw my logo . No thereās no guarantees in life and it seems Iāve known that for a couple days now Iām sure nor do I ever remember saying so . I guess this is about safetyās well I am pretty sure if someone got ahold of your gun if the safety is on no matter if he designed the gun himself it would take longer to discharge it even if for a fraction of a second. But me I like a safety because I guess when I started shooting all handguns had them unless they were a revolver