Working my way through the Striker fired world before attempting a 1911/2011 purchase.
Already have a 3.2" G2C, 4" RM1C and 5" PDP. Thought I would “split the difference” and look at a, roughly, 4.2" Compensated pistol. Since I don’t own a S & W or a Glock; I thought that I should try one. I have settled on, either a USA-made Smith & Wesson M&P 2.0 Carry Comp or a
Shadow Systems XR920P. I haven’t shot either pistol…yet, but will do so soon.
I haven’t shot the XR920P but I have the CR920P and it shoots flat!
It’s basically a Gen 3/4 & 5 all in one gun but for the price, at the time, I should have just saved and bought a 2011. They shoot flat without the comp, awesome trigger, and rack as easy as a S&W EZ
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The difference in grip-to-barrel angle between the Glock design (22 degrees) and the S&W design (18 degrees, same as a 1911), is noticeable. Advanced shooters can adjust back and forth easily. However, when I first tested semi-autos for carry, I found that after years of 1911 use, I just did not like the Glock angle. Glocks are great guns, and therr design family like the Shadow are popular for many reasons. However, given where you are in your search, at least pay attention to the difference in how you have to hold each gun.
Been thinking lately, about the exact positioning of the index finger combined with the best hand grip hold when shooting. On some, the position I prefer my finger be when firing, differs greatly between models.
Some models sold on the market, even offer 3 different grips all in the same firearm.
When in the range, it really bothers me when I feel a greater need to stop and readjust my grip so that I have my finger in the best possible spot to press the trigger. However, not at the cost of forgoing the best hand grip position.
For some, like me, I prefer the tip/end pad of my index be the point that touches the trigger when firing.
Ergonomics:
But I also want the most full, firm, and comfortable grip hold to control aim and recoil.
It wasn’t until I recently completed my permit renewal range test, I was p _ _ _ _ d at myself because of the 30, I had one outlier on the shoulder of the silhouette. My fault, but it was because I was “adjusting” between best grip hold Vs best finger position.
All this took me a while to figure out, from trying it out.
I’m at the point, I’ll experiment my models to see if I wanna switch my EDC choice.
I know Glock has a multi grip size model. I don’t have experience with Smith Wesson, but know they have some variety. Renting at the range to compare might help.
What are you wanting to accomplish?
IMHO striker fired and 1911s are like apples and oranges.
IMHO, don’t switch ponies in the middle of the river, unless you need to switch,
and in that case get both feet in he stirrups ASAP.
Funny you should mention the index finger/hand grip issue. I recently picked up the Rost Martin RM1C. REALLY enjoy shooting it, yet my trigger finger is “lost” trying to find the trigger. I know, it sounds absurd. But more than once, I took a look at my trigger finger as it just didn’t feel “right” on the trigger.
I am going to change the back strap/grip angle and try it again.
Simply, I don’t know what I don’t know…so I believe that I am going to try different options, Striker Fired and 1911/2011 in an effort to find which I am more comfortable with and to improve my knowledge base, at the same time.
@Peter204 ,
I don’t know what’s your purpose to have another handgun, but if you are looking for something that will positively surprise you, I’d suggest skipping striker fired handgun and focus on either 1911DS or 2011.
This is my personal point of view and majority won’t agree, but once I shot 2011 pistols I knew there’s no coming back to “Glock Technology”.
Better shooting, better weight balance, better grip, smoother action, nicer, less complicated trigger press, more trigger distance (finger placement) adjusting option. All these made me shoot faster and more accurate. Simple change of the tool.
I know there are other similar handguns giving the same results (SIG P226/229 SAO, CZ75 Series), but somehow 2011 family feels and fit me the best.
I appreciate your input and you make a compelling case.
For sure, my plan is to “audition” a 1911/2011. Sounds like sooner rather than later…
It will give me a chance to evaluate grip angle, trigger, weight, perceived recoil, etc. of the various options.
I’ll locate a rental xx11, give it a spin and report my result.
