Ongoing Situation Lewiston active shooter: 22 people dead and 60 injured with armed suspect still at large

I hope this is your idea of sarcasm.

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One deranged fool with a weapon and one deranged fool in charge. The one in charge is not helping by condoning violence, wars and the general condition of the world. Some of this stuff is weighing heavily on weaker minds. I don’t know what could make someone wake up in the morning and say, I think I’ll go shoot up the world! But I do lay this squarely at the feet of the ones they voted for!

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I’m not responsible for what some psychopath has done. Nor did I ā€œlet it happenā€.

The people that were injured and killed were not responsible for what the psychopath had done. Nor did they ā€œlet it happenā€.

The gun is not responsible for what the psychopath has done.

The psychopath is the only one responsible for what he has done.

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Furthermore, our community as a whole has taken responsibility. However the general public refuses to accept or embrace that which we embrace. We teach safety, we try to broadcast this to the general public, but no, we are a danger! No we are not. And guns don’t just go off! Psychopaths just go off, this one happened to have a gun. The streets of NY are filled with people just like him armed with bats, razors, cars, trucks, chains, bottles anything they can get their hands on. It’s not the weapon or the tool it’s the liberal mind!

If anything we need to be much much louder!

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If you were there, would you have let it happen? All the people that were there let it happen. We can not let this keep happening. We have to take responsibility.

Even if he was an instructor, I’m pretty sure he didn’t instruct people to kill people! If the MSM is going after the gun industry based upon that logic, then they better get on the airline industry!
Common sense airplanes, mushroom pilots​:red_question_mark: Guess we need to ban airplanes!

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Absolutely, unequivocally, NOT. Then again I would have been caught saving some liberal lives and been hauled off to jail because I used a firearm in gun free zone, but to me, innocent lives are more important than signs!

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I’m going to turn the question back on you.

If you were there would you have let it happen?

I still don’t see how all those people ā€œlet it happenā€. What could they have done to stop it? You can’t force someone to carry a firearm. And if you want to remain a ā€œlaw abiding gun ownerā€ you have to accept (well you don’t but that’s a personal choice) that the government has create ā€œHelp Victim zonesā€.

Hell, you want to place blame and responsibility, lay it at the feet of those who deserve it. Government and the actual psycho that did it.

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It was a rhetorical question. I know we would shoot back. To me it’s like blaming a dog for miss behaving. It’s not the dog miss behaving it’s us not teaching the dog how to do the right thing. Are we going to say this is not my fault and not encourage people to protect themselves.

No it’s not ā€œusā€ it’s the owner.

You can’t blame me for a dog that’s misbehaving if I have nothing to do with the upbringing of the dog.

So no, I will not take responsibility for someone else’s horrible actions.

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This happened in a ā€˜gun free’ zone?

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What about all the people that didn’t defend them selves

What about them?

They didn’t, or couldn’t, defend themselves and they suffered for it.

What more do you want ?

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It’s interesting, every time this happens the same conversations ensue. We really need to teach the government. They are the ones insane. Insisting on the same unqualified solutions trying to achieve a different outcome! How stupid can they truly be! Maybe starting in 2024 they do it our way, and start with the gun free zones and crippling the criminal element. Restore law and order. Fund good police, they don’t like stop, ask and frisk. Well we’re taught to AVOID. They can do the same. Avoid gangs and areas where you’re most likely to get stopped by police! Don’t be an idiot follow orders. Don’t make a spectacle of yourself!

This doesn’t say ā€œhi, I’d like to be your friendā€, it says ā€œwhy you looking at me, I kill you!ā€

I’ll invest in the building of bigger prisons, and psych wards. WHAT? There are no doctors. Ooohhhhh! I see, shrinks are only shrinks when they get paid from cry baby celebrities! Psycho gunman have no disposable income! :man_facepalming:

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To care a little more and stop putting blame on someone else.

That’s the government’s fault! They put targets on innocent civilians!

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I was asking, sorry if it was not clear.

Did this happen in a ā€˜gun free zone’? I just saw walmart and a bowling alley. In ME, I don’t think either of those would be a gun free zone.

I was asking because you commented that you’d be hauled off to jail for using a firearm in a gun free zone if you had been there

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Yes one location was a billiards club and bar! That’s a no gun zone based on the alcohol alone, don’t know about the bowling alley. It being Maine, I would say the bowling alley would be free to carry. And if the numbers are correct, more were killed in the bar, Walmart denied it was their warehouse.

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ME allows carry in bars unless posted, so it’s not a no gun zone based on alcohol alone.

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/ccw_reciprocity_map/me-gun-laws/

CARRY IN BARS/RESTAURANTS THAT SERVE ALCOHOL?

Can you carry a concealed firearm in bars and restaurants that serve alcohol in Maine?

Yes, unless posted and provided you are not under the influence.

[17-A Me. Rev. Stat. 43, § 1057].

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More like a poor choice of words.

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