Welcome to the family brother @Enrique15 and glad you are here.
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Welcome @Matt87 , @Walter106 and @Enrique15 !! I am a 26 year LEO now retired and an 8 year USAF Vet. Welcome gentlemen, glad you are here.
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welcome @Matt87 I know this will make some mad, let me first say thank you to all that have served. but there is one thing we need to do away with. Qualified immunity must be abolished because it allows law enforcement â as well as other government officials â to repeatedly violate the constitutional rights of people without consequence.
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Do you care to elaborate or give an example?
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If so, every skell and scumbag will do nothing but file lawsuits for a living. You know that will happen. What do they have to loose? Oversight is critical, but immunity has an impotant function.
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You Sir, were correct. There is a time and place for everything and this âLeo Gratitude festâ ainât it.
Thanks for Playinâ Please try again when the lines arenât so busy. Click.
I will just âBlanketâ say to all of you guyâs Thank you for your Service! in every form.
K-9, ESU, Detectives, Foot Soldiers on down the line to Dispatcherâs and PSAâs, Your service kept the lid on till âthese peopleâ took the lid off, threw it away and then turned up the heat!
9/11 was a DARK day and the only thing that kept that Heinous Event from every AMERICAN mentally spiraling was seeing you dudes and dudetteâs and your Pupâs on that PILE day after day, Ton after Ton of debris, By frigginâ hand mostly, stopping every movement when someone heard something. Powerful images and memories. The Pads of the K-9âs got torn up and they soldiered on till they couldnât. same with you guyâs. Exhausted, Bloody and injured you kept going till you were done.
EVERYDAY, you folksâ pin on the Badge, Everyday you you know you might not come home
GOD BLESS YOU WARRIORS!
You guyâs got me out of a tight spot in Brooklyn (1978), Crippled and Bleeding out, surrounded and my 686 was empty and I was too hurt to reload. They would have beaten me to death of this Iâm certain. I have a great life because you did your Jobs. You always do your jobs. It is a disgrace what they are doing to us and cowardly what they are doing to this Countries Finest! I was under the Towerâs (1&2) Lobby overhangs EVERYDAY for years .
I was inside an ATM during the 26 Feb1993 Bombing and got knocked out, smashed my head, unconscious. NYPD/ESU LOOKED FOR ME. You could have just walked by that ATM portal door and said âclearâ but you didnât. You saw there was no driver in my truck, you asked my guard if all were accounted for. They couldnât raise me on the horn and you went in. There could have been more bombs, the place could have been unstable. But YOU STILL WENT IN!. YOU ALWAYS GO IN! Are there some bad appleâs (no pun intended) Sure, Look at this .gov, a whole rotten bushel!!!. I wanted to be a SEAL, the Crimâs ended that. But I didnât die in that filthy gutter because of you! I would have felt the blows of the beating I was still conscious but fading. In '93 I was out cold, but I could have bled out.
You gave me Life TWICE so I could meet the Greatest Fighting Man this country ever produced (My Opinion only) same year 1993, The Mog. Because of what YOU did I met him and he reshaped my Course into a damn good life of excitement, danger and Wealth and the most wonderful Woman in the World (for me). BECAUSE OF YOUR HEROIC ACTIONS. Thank God (again) she went home recently and does not see this Country Bleeding out, she was a Warrior also, It would have crushed her.
Thank you Warriors. I give you all a Virtual hug, or as I like to say when I get like this , a fist bump, a punch on the shoulder a grateful âatta-boyâ ! Weâre Guyâs we donât get emotional (too late)
I look around my House when I get like this, see the trappings of a very good life, My new Kitten, My Jaguar, My wonderful Sister who is my only family I have left is safe and secure because of what you all did TWICE! I will protect her everyday with a passion till one of us goes home.
Citizens use to bake you stuff, Give you meals because of what you do daily. After 9/11 you couldnât eat all the cakes, cookies and treats or you wouldnât be able to fit in the squad cars! It was BEAUTIFUL.
New Yorkerâs are like that. They get a bad rap, youâve gotten a bad rap. You came from all over the Country, banded together to save OUR city. Firefighters, EMS, Nurses, Doctorâs the list is endless! HEROâS ALL! Now we fight each other, We defund, we Fire, We mandatory Vaxx till you Quit! , Leave NYC. Even though most of you still Loved her. It breaks my Heart.
âI LOVE NEW YORK 
â wasnât a Madison Ave. Gimmick! WE MEANT IT! Now it is a Cesspool of Socialist Marxist-Progressiveâs 
and they are Welcome to it. They should all be buried in âGreenwoodâ, unmarked graves. âHere lies WHO the Phuck Cares!â Iâm truly sorry if some of you still live there. I miss my apartment on 102nd and Riverside drive. I miss when I was in so much pain couldnât sleep but still I could hobble and get a Bagel and coffee at (3) am on Ave. of the Americaâs , I miss MY TOWERS⊠I miss New York (but not today).
You âHeld the Lineâ when it was worth holding. Now⊠Enough of that.
If I could speak for every New Yorker (the oneâs now disarmed, scared, sick, disgusted with the way things are now) They would STILL say âThank you!, for your Serviceâ They NEVER wanted you persecuted, defunded, Pushed out, You are not quitters, But why stay when you are ruled by ungrateful, evil, corrupt
POSâs? I Pray you have a great retirement, you made it! Congratâs!
AMEN
(Sorry Gunnerâs, I had to say that)
A Public School kid (PS 97) Woodhaven < Queens, NEW YORK CITY! OORAH!
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heres one example and there are many more.
In Malley v. Briggs, 457 U.S. 335 (1986), the Supreme Court examined immunity for police officers with regard to acting on the basis of a faulty warrant. The Court held that qualified immunity does not apply to a police officer when the officer wrongfully arrests someone based on a warrant, if the officer who could not reasonably believe that there was probable cause for the warrant. Reasonability is determined by the action that an objectively reasonable officer would take. sorry i stired the pot iâll just hold my tongue from now on.
âJust keep poking the Bear sonâŠâ
One case. WOW
Millions of Skells
Daily Danger, Out numbered, most time ALONE
Millions of Innocents DEAD
and you cite ONE CASE⊠WOWâŠ
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Oops. I did not intend to open a hot topic. I probably should not have used the term â enjoyedâ QI. I would like to clarify that. I always considered myself as a moral and ethical community servant and conducted myself as so. Qualified immunity never guided my conduct and I never held the opinion that it would protect me if I did something unethical or intentionally and knowingly against its intended design. Only a fool would believe they could hide bad deeds with a blanket defense of QI and not have to be accountable to explain bad actions. That being said, QI did give me some peace of mind to go about my duties to act in good faith on behalf of the community who demands that I give them good and responsible service. QI should never be viewed as a force field to shield one from accountability for bad actions, that would be a foolish miscalculation. You are still accountable for bad actions. QI does not in any way protect from intentional acts of malfeasance. Courts get to decide when QI applies and when it does not.
In a similar way, private self defense insurance like the one offered by our membership should not lead someone to think they can be shielded by acts of bad faith. Qualified Immunity is kind of like the communityâs way of providing self defense insurance without the monthly premiums. The fact still must be there to qualify.
Thank you all for supporting responsible carry by responsible citizens.
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Randy 154. Please donât take offense to my reply. By your membership in this forum I suspect you are one of the many folks who share the value of the responsible and educated carry citizens and for that I am thankful. I canât tell you how many times I took comfort in having a responsible carry citizen nearby when things were getting scary. I respect your comments and thank you. Now let go to the range and crank out some rounds! 
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Brother Matt,
Please donât think you did anything wrong by sayinâ stuff here ('QI") or âenjoyedâ
or otherwise.
You could NEVER have done this Thankless Job without some protection.
(I know No Cop who wanted to be Thanked but thatâs besides the Point)
I took off on Randy all on my own, This is my cross to bear if itâs anybodyâs.
I owe a DEBT to you folks I could NEVER repay. So, in payment I do the best I can.
You guys waded into a hostile crowd and saved my A** but I heard you turned the Boil
down to a simmer. The simmer was always there then and now but you dealt with it EVERY DAY!
Randy here is a victim of my frustration of what âthese peopleâ did to OUR CITY!
I apologize Randy154, you are entitled to that opinion, I just disagree with you totally.
People canât fix Society by turning on the WARRIOR. You have to give them some protection
so they can wade in every day into the Tidal way of sewage and come out in some semblance of whole.
To just let them dangle when they do their best is just Criminal.
I could NEVER have been a Cop, too many rules/too many Rulerâs
Thatâs why I chose âArmorâ. I was and always will be a Cowboy (my bad)
I would have been tossed out on my A** in (5) years or less. Tuned up a perp
or Beat a wife abuser or Child Molester (killed them probably) Just being honest here
But I KNEW THAT ABOUT MYSELF and bully for me I listened to myself. Prolly saved some AHoles life
so he could beat and molest another day. I couldnât do it.
One last thing about NYPD and their related Brother and Sisterhood.
Never have I seen a Finer group of Mena and Women.
My Boy Scout Troop (#29) was chock full of Cops, EMS(my father), and Rikerâs Island Corrections.
They shaped unselfishly many a young, impressionable kid into fine young men.
Their tales of what they went through thinking we couldnât hear them at Alpine and ten Mile River camps maybeâŠafter they had a few pops dealing with and putting to bed (40-50) rowdy kids away from home were amazing! better than reading a Superman Comic I remember some tales to this day. Awesome, and I am (63!). When a Police Officer went down in the Line the whole neighborhood mourned, Knew him/her or not. The City Mourned. Flags were lowered, Armbands, Bunting, Food came a plenty, Children were looked after and protected etc etc. Today⊠not so much. Maybe some Cheer! Disgraceful.
I still kick some A even today. Just the last couple of weeks a few incidents but I know what I am suppose to do and do it right and by the Letters because of these guyâs. Iâm not perfect but because of a shiy upbringing these people looked after me and stood me up, called me on my SH and made me Honorable.
So, Randy Iâm sorry again. You didnât deserve what I said.
Iâm just overly sensitive when I hear any Cop-Bashing. Even these Fools out here (Albuquerque, NM) deserve respect. They are NOT NYPD, Never will. because they donât care enough. They JUDGE!
Once again I apologize to this group.
New York had it good and âthese peopleâ destroyed it. Itâs never he mayor or the Governor Itâs the Cop on the Beat, Special Services, The EMS the walk through the rivers of blood.
THANK YOU ALL>
God Bless.
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Thank you for your service!
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Welcome @Matt87!
I am also retired law enforcement and am now a criminal defense attorney. I should say semi-retired because Iâm back part-time with another local sheriffâs office.
The key is you know the law, both criminal and self-defense. While qualified immunity may not be available (and is under attack in many jurisdictions), your experience plays in your favor. Big thing to remember is that your retired badge does not give you law enforcement authority, do donât overstep. Here, in Kentucky, detention and arrest authority is very different for police versus civilians, primarily arrests based upon probable cause.
And always remember stay safe!
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Thank you sir for your continued service. My retired badge looks all nice & shiny but I promise the only overstepping or copping Iâll be doing is stepping as fast as I can to avoid trouble and enjoy that fight I will hopefully never have. Heck, I canât even watch On Patrol Live anymore because itâs too painful. I seem to have limited my TV to Andy Griffin, Rifleman and BBQ shows. Better for the soul. 
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God bless Sal Goodman
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@Matt87 thank you for your service. hope you have a safe and happy retirement. sorry i started the s@#t storm. i will keep my thoughts to my self from now on. again thank you for what you have done and do.
god bless
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My dadâs a semi retired LEO, he started in 77 with a Smith and Wesson model 39 for a short time, then the Smith and Wesson model 66 from the late 70âs until the early 90âs. The department then went to SIG P220âs until the late 90âs, went with the Glock 21 and had a couple gens of those until last year they went with the Glock 17.
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