Is any of this acceptable?...or is it all unacceptable?...opinions


Joe Biden knows that gun violence is a public health epidemic. Almost 40,000 people die as a result of firearm injuries every year in the United States, and many more are wounded. Some of these deaths and injuries are the result of mass shootings that make national headlines. Others are the result of daily acts of gun violence or suicides that may not make national headlines, but are just as devastating to the families and communities left behind.

Joe Biden has taken on the National Rifle Association (NRA) on the national stage and won – twice. In 1993, he shepherded through Congress the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, which established the background check system that has since kept more than 3 million firearms out of dangerous hands. In 1994, Biden – along with Senator Dianne Feinstein – secured the passage of 10-year bans on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. As president, Joe Biden will defeat the NRA again.

Joe Biden also knows how to make progress on reducing gun violence using executive action. After the tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary School in 2012, President Obama tasked Vice President Biden with developing both legislative proposals and executive actions to make our communities safer. As a result of this effort, the Obama-Biden Administration took more than two dozen actions, including narrowing the so-called “gun show loophole,” increasing the number of records in the background check system, and expanding funding for mental health services.

It’s within our grasp to end our gun violence epidemic and respect the Second Amendment, which is limited. As president, Biden will pursue constitutional, common-sense gun safety policies. Biden will:

Hold gun manufacturers accountable. In 2005, then-Senator Biden voted against the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, but gun manufacturers successfully lobbied Congress to secure its passage. This law protects these manufacturers from being held civilly liable for their products – a protection granted to no other industry. Biden will prioritize repealing this protection.

Get weapons of war off our streets. The bans on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines that Biden, along with Senator Feinstein, secured in 1994 reduced the lethality of mass shootings. But, in order to secure the passage of the bans, they had to agree to a 10-year sunset provision and when the time came, the Bush Administration failed to extend them. As president, Biden will:

  • Ban the manufacture and sale of assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. Federal law prevents hunters from hunting migratory game birds with more than three shells in their shotgun. That means our federal law does more to protect ducks than children. It’s wrong. Joe Biden will enact legislation to once again ban assault weapons. This time, the bans will be designed based on lessons learned from the 1994 bans. For example, the ban on assault weapons will be designed to prevent manufacturers from circumventing the law by making minor changes that don’t limit the weapon’s lethality. While working to pass this legislation, Biden will also use his executive authority to ban the importation of assault weapons.

  • Regulate possession of existing assault weapons under the National Firearms Act. Currently, the National Firearms Act requires individuals possessing machine-guns, silencers, and short-barreled rifles to undergo a background check and register those weapons with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). Due to these requirements, such weapons are rarely used in crimes. As president, Biden will pursue legislation to regulate possession of existing assault weaponsunder the National Firearms Act.

  • Buy back the assault weapons and high-capacity magazines already in our communities. Biden will also institute a program to buy back weapons of war currently on our streets. This will give individuals who now possess assault weapons or high-capacity magazines two options: sell the weapons to the government, or register them under the National Firearms Act.

  • Reduce stockpiling of weapons . In order to reduce the stockpiling of firearms, Biden supports legislation restricting the number of firearms an individual may purchase per month to one.

Keep guns out of dangerous hands. The federal background check system (the National Instant Criminal Background Check System) is one of the best tools we have to prevent gun violence, but it’s only effective when it’s used. Biden will enact universal background check legislation and close other loopholes that allow people who should be prohibited from purchasing firearms from making those purchases. Specifically, he will:

  • Require background checks for all gun sales. Today, an estimated 1 in 5 firearms are sold or transferred without a background check. Biden will enact universal background check legislation, requiring a background check for all gun sales with very limited exceptions, such as gifts between close family members. This will close the so-called “gun show and online sales loophole” that the Obama-Biden Administration narrowed, but which cannot be fully closed by executive action alone.

  • Close other loopholes in the federal background check system. In addition to closing the “boyfriend loophole” highlighted below, Biden will:

  • Reinstate the Obama-Biden policy to keep guns out of the hands of certain people unable to manage their affairs for mental reasons, which President Trump reversed. In 2016, the Obama-Biden Administration finalized a rule to make sure the Social Security Administration (SSA) sends to the background check system records that it holds of individuals who are prohibited from purchasing or possessing firearms because they have been adjudicated by the SSA as unable to manage their affairs for mental reasons. But one of the first actions Donald Trump took as president was to reverse this rule. President Biden will enact legislation to codify this policy.

  • Close the “hate crime loophole.” Biden will enact legislationprohibiting an individual “who has been convicted of a misdemeanor hate crime, or received an enhanced sentence for a misdemeanor because of hate or bias in its commission” from purchasing or possessing a firearm.

  • Close the “Charleston loophole.” The Charleston loophole allows people to complete a firearms purchase if their background check is not completed within three business days. Biden supports the proposal in the Enhanced Background Checks Act of 2019, which extends the timeline from three to 10 business days. Biden will also direct the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) to put on his desk within his first 100 days as president a report detailing the cases in which background checks are not completed within 10 business days and steps the federal government can take to reduce or eliminate this occurrence.

  • Close the “fugitive from justice” loophole created by the Trump Administration. Because of actions by the Trump Administration, records of almost 500,000 fugitives from justice who are prohibited from purchasing firearms were deleted from the background check system. The Biden Administration will restore these records, and enact legislation to make clear that people facing arrest warrants are prohibited from purchasing or possessing firearms.

End the online sale of firearms and ammunitions. Biden will enact legislation to prohibit all online sales of firearms, ammunition, kits, and gun parts.

Create an effective program to ensure individuals who become prohibited from possessing firearms relinquish their weapons. Federal law defines categories of individuals who are prohibited from purchasing or possessing firearms, and the federal background check system is an effective tool for ensuring prohibited persons cannot purchase firearms. But we lack any serious tool to ensure that when someone becomes newly prohibited – for example, because they commit a violent crime – they relinquish possession of their firearms. There are some promising models for how this could be enforced. For example, California has a mandatory process for ensuring relinquishment by any individual newly subject to a domestic violence restraining order. As president, Biden will direct the FBI and ATF to outline a model relinquishment process, enact any necessary legislation to ensure relinquishment when individuals newly fall under one of the federal prohibitions, and then provide technical and financial assistance to state and local governments to establish effective relinquishment processes on their own.

Incentivize state “extreme risk” laws. Extreme risk laws, also called “red flag” laws, enable family members or law enforcement officials to temporarily remove an individual’s access to firearms when that individual is in crisis and poses a danger to themselves or others. Biden will incentivize the adoption of these laws by giving states funds to implement them. And, he’ll direct the U.S. Department of Justice to issue best practices and offer technical assistance to states interested in enacting an extreme risk law.

Give states incentives to set up gun licensing programs. Biden will enact legislation to give states and local governments grants to require individuals to obtain a license prior to purchasing a gun.

Adequately fund the background check system. President Obama and Vice President Biden expanded incentives for states to submit records of prohibited persons into the background checks system. As president, Biden will continue to prioritize that funding and ensure that the FBI is adequately funded to accurately and efficiently handle the NICS system.


The statistics tell a devastating and overwhelming story. The likelihood that a woman in a domestic violence situation will be killed increases by a factor of five if a gun is nearby. Half of mass shootings involve an individual shooting a family member or former intimate partner. This deadly connection tragically impacts children as well: 86% of children killed in shootings with four or more victims were involved in domestic or family violence.

Biden recognizes that the gun violence and domestic violence epidemics are linked and cannot be solved in isolation. Addressing the interconnectedness of these challenges will be a core focus of Biden’s anti-violence work as president.

The Violence Against Women Reauthorization Act of 2019, which Leader McConnell refuses to bring to the floor for a vote, includes a number of reforms to keep firearms out of the hands of abusers. Senator McConnell should ensure this legislation gets passed long before President Biden would take the oath of office. But if McConnell refuses to act, Biden will enact legislation to close the so-called “boyfriend loophole” and “stalking loophole” by prohibiting all individuals convicted of assault, battery, or stalking from purchasing or possessing firearms, regardless of their connection to the victim. This proposal is modeled after existing laws in California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Nevada, New York, and Pennsylvania. Biden also supports enacting the proposal to prohibit anyone under a temporary restraining order from purchasing or possessing a firearm before their hearing.

In addition, President Biden will:

  • Establish a new Task Force on Online Harassment and Abuse to focus on the connection between mass shootings, online harassment, extremism, and violence against women. As President, Joe Biden will convene a national Task Force with federal agencies, state leaders, advocates, law enforcement, and technology experts to study rampant online sexual harassment, stalking, and threats, including revenge porn and deepfakes — and the connection between this harassment, mass shootings, extremism and violence against women. The Task Force will be charged with developing cutting-edge strategies and recommendations for how federal and state governments, social media companies, schools, and other public and private entities can tackle this unique challenge. The Task Force will consider platform accountability, transparent reporting requirements for incidents of harassment and response, and best practices.

  • Expand the use of evidence-based lethality assessments by law enforcement in cases of domestic violence. Lethality assessments, sometimes called “risk” or “danger” assessments, are a proven strategy to help law enforcement officers identify domestic violence survivors who are at high risk of being killed by their abusers. These survivors are then connected with social service programs that can offer services and safety planning. An evaluation of the Lethality Assessment Program (LEP) created by the Maryland Network Against Domestic Violence showed promising results. Increased federal funding will incentivize jurisdictions to take advantage of implementing these programs more widely.

Make sure firearm owners take on the responsibility of ensuring their weapons are used safely.

  • Put America on the path to ensuring that 100% of firearms sold in America are smart guns. Today, we have the technology to allow only authorized users to fire a gun. For example, existing smart gun technology requires a fingerprint match before use. Biden believes we should work to eventually require that 100% of firearms sold in the U.S. are smart guns. But, right now the NRA and gun manufacturers are bullying firearms dealers who try to sell these guns. Biden will stand up against these bullying tactics and issue a call to action for gun manufacturers, dealers, and other public and private entities to take steps to accelerate our transition to smart guns.

  • Hold adults accountable for giving minors access to firearms. Biden supports legislation holding adults criminally and civilly liable for directly or negligently giving a minor access to a firearm, regardless of whether the minor actually gains possession of the firearm.

  • Require gun owners to safely store their weapons. Biden will pass legislation requiring firearm owners to store weapons safely in their homes.

Empower law enforcement to effectively enforce our gun laws.

  • Prioritize prosecution of straw purchasers. “Straw purchasers” buy a firearm on behalf of an individual who cannot pass a background check. Biden will end those loopholes by enacting a law to make all straw purchases a serious federal crime and ensure the U.S. Justice Department has sufficient resources to prioritize their prosecution.

  • Notify law enforcement when a potential firearms purchaser fails a background check. Too often, when prohibited persons attempting to buy a firearm fail a background check, state and local law enforcement is never informed of the attempt. As president, Biden will direct the FBI to set up a process to ensure timely notification of denials to state and local law enforcement, and he’ll support legislation to codify this process. This empowers law enforcement to follow up and ensure prohibited persons do not attempt to acquire firearms through other means.

  • Require firearms owners to report if their weapon is lost or stolen. Responsible gun owners have a responsibility to inform law enforcement if their weapon is lost or stolen. Biden will enact legislation to make this the law of the land.

  • Stop “ghost guns.” One way people who cannot legally obtain a gun may gain access to a weapon is by assembling a one on their own, either by buying a kit of disassembled gun parts or 3D printing a working firearm. Biden will stop the proliferation of these so-called “ghost guns” by passing legislation requiring that purchasers of gun kits or 3D printing code pass a federal background check. Additionally, Biden will ensure that the authority for firearms exports stays with the State Department, and if needed reverse a proposed rule by President Trump. This will ensure the State Department continues to block the code used to 3D print firearms from being made available on the Internet.

  • Reform, fund, and empower the U.S. Justice Department to enforce our gun laws. Biden will direct his Attorney General to deliver to him within his first 100 days a set of recommendations for restructuring the ATF and related Justice Department agencies to most effectively enforce our gun laws. Biden will then work to secure sufficient funds for the Justice Department to effectively enforce our existing gun laws, increase the frequency of inspections of firearms dealers, and repeal riders that get in the way of that work.

  • Direct the ATF to issue an annual report on firearms trafficking. This report will provide officials with critical information to better identify strategies for curbing firearms trafficking.


Daily acts of gun violence in our communities may not make national headlines, but are just as devastating to survivors and victims’ families as gun violence that does make the front page. And, these daily acts of gun violence disproportionately impact communities of color. But there is reason to be optimistic. There are proven strategies for reducing gun violence in urban communities without turning to incarceration. For example, Group Violence Intervention organizes community leaders to work with individuals most likely to commit acts of gun violence, express the community’s demand that the gun violence stop, and connect individuals who may be likely perpetrators with social and economic support services that may deter violent behavior. These types of interventions have reduced homicides by as much as 60%. Hospital-Based Violence Intervention engages young people who have been injured by gun violence while they are still in the hospital, connecting them to social and economic services that may decrease the likelihood they engage in or are victims of gun violence in the future. Biden will create a $900 million, eight-year initiative to fund these and other types of evidence-based interventions in 40 cities across the country – the 20 cities with the highest number of homicides, and 20 cities with the highest number of homicides per capita. This proposal is estimated to save more than 12,000 lives over the eight-year program.

Dedicate the brightest scientific minds to solving the gun violence public health epidemic. In 2013, President Obama issued a memorandum clarifying that a longstanding appropriations rider that prohibited the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and other federal scientific agencies from using federal dollars to “advocate or promote gun control” does not prohibit those agencies from researching the causes and prevention of gun violence. The National Institutes of Health (NIH) subsequently embarked on funding some of this research, though Republican leadership in Congress refused to appropriate any funds to the CDC for this work. Biden will call for Congress to appropriate $50 million to accelerate this research at the CDC and NIH.

Prohibit the use of federal funds to arm or train educators to discharge firearms. We should be passing rational gun laws, not requiring educators who already have too much on their plates to also protect the safety of their students. Biden supports barring states from using federal dollars to arm or train educators to discharge firearms.

Address the epidemic of suicides by firearms. Biden believes any plan to address the gun violence epidemic must address suicides by firearms, which account for 6 in 10 gun-related deaths but are often left out of the conversation. Many of the policies noted above – including safe storage requirements and extreme risk protection orders – will have a serious impact on efforts to reduce gun violence. But there’s so much more we need to do to support people experiencing suicidal ideation. In the months ahead, Biden will put forward a comprehensive plan to improve access to mental health services.


Violence causes ripples of trauma throughout our communities, impacting not just the victims of violence but also their communities and first responders. Fear of school shootings is having a noticeable impact on the mental health of Gen Z. Intimate partner violence is linked to depression, post-traumatic stress, and other mental health challenges among survivors. And, this trauma can be intergenerational. Science now shows that young children who witness violence – including in their home – literally alters the parts of their brains that affect “reasoning, planning, and behavioral control.”

We need to reduce violence to prevent trauma from happening in the first place. But we also must treat the resulting trauma as a serious crisis in its own right.

As president, Biden will:

  • Make federal programs more trauma-informed. During his first 100 days, Biden will direct his Cabinet to conduct a review of all federal programs that directly serve communities likely to experience violence and identify reforms to make sure those programs effectively address resulting trauma. Biden will then invest significant federal funds in expanding and improving the federal government’s support for trauma-informed and culturally responsive care.

  • Create a network of trauma care centers . Biden will bring together offices within the federal government to establish specialized trauma care centers for survivors of violence, with a special focus on survivors of domestic and sexual violence. Domestic violence services are focused on meeting the emergency needs of survivors, including safety planning and crisis intervention. As a result, frontline providers lack the resources they need to offer therapeutic services to help survivors heal from trauma. These trauma care centers will be flexible in meeting the needs of communities, and could be housed at rape crisis centers, domestic violence programs, universities, and existing mental health centers.

  • Train health care and other service providers in trauma-centered care. To prevent revictimization and secondary trauma, Biden will align training efforts throughout relevant federal programs to include a focus on understanding the traumatic effects of violence, providing appropriate care to avoid furthering the trauma, linking survivors with evidence-based trauma therapies, and reducing myths about domestic and sexual violence. This will be accomplished through agency directives, policy guidance, and special conditions for grantees and contractors.


After 20,000 gun laws, I can’t see “just one more” gun law being effective.
However this was a fantastic post filled with stats, data and truth, about what Biden wants; and I thank you for that


It’s scary


I mean, I’m personally more worried about hammers. hammers kill more people annually, than an ar 15.


In the United States and throughout much of the world, car accidents are a leading cause of serious injury and death. In fact, in the U.S. alone, at least “38,800” people were killed in motor vehicle collisions in 2019. There are about “10 million” accidents of all kinds each year, from parking lot scrapes to multi-car pileups, according to the National Safety Council;


The fact that we are divided is the reason these issues are even on the table, if it were not for the separation of parties people would find it easier to unite against this so strongly that would render it a non issue.
Shall not be infringed would un arguably mean Shall not be infringed.

As sad as the times are, I still carry hope, in that one day we will oversee our own political boundaries and reunite.

                              GREAT AMERICA

Not sure how to feel about this post. Everything that is said is true. Joe Biden is a communist wanting full control and to take our rights away. I quote Joe Biden by saying " If I win, I will Force masks on all people and if they don’t comply then they will be prosecuted". It’s not about the virus, it’s about social obedience. It never was about the virus. Scientists studies show that the worst thing for a virus is to try to block it, you must let it run its course. It’s call heard immunity.

As for thinking he is for gun control, your right he is. If he has control he will disarm us so we can’t fight back. If you want to live in a third world country, then by all means go and live in communism. Here in this country we don’t want that, we want the freedom to live, the freedom to decide, the freedom to act, freedom of religion, freedom to protect ourselves and I for one will not stand down if my rights are impeded by the Biden administration.

I Will Join Arms To Protect This Country From Joe Biden And The Rest Of The Communist You Called Democrats.


Acceptable or unacceptable, we have NO say in the matter if the NAZI’s win. This statement cannot be corrected. These are pages right out of Hitler’s books. How much clearer can they get, wow! Are we actually going to sit here and wait for the cattle cars to show up at your door. They are gassing them up as we speak! No pun intended. If they win, we surely die as will the America we grew up in. This is absolutely no joke man! I’ve never seen such blatant disgust for a people, except for Hitler. Plenty of statues have been torn down, but I don’t need a statue to remind me of pure unadulterated evil being spewed by politicians that some may actually vote for. A quick death will be our only saving grace. Good luck people, when you’re ready to end this, call me!


This sentence alone should be of concern for all freedom and liberty loving people.

Just look at what they have done to install tyranny with a ‘public health crisis’ they called Covid-19.

No church, no free speech, no going to work, or opening your store, all at Governor / King dictates.

The CDC had already been researching firearm violence as a public health crisis under the Obama administration. Just think… Covid has been declared a public health crisis and we have had rights and freedoms and liberties curtailed.


Interesting that the people are NOT united on the Constitution.

We seem to allow or simply comply with laws that infringe on the rights we have.

So called gun control laws inherently violate the Constitution.

If a law was passed for Religious Control, requiring permits, tax stamps for certain regulated religious beliefs (similar to the 1934 NFA), and Religious Identification cards, people might become upset (and something similar was done in our not so distant past with a little man with a small mustache… and no I do not mean Charlie Chaplin)
Yet, laws requiring tax stamps for certain firearms, permits to carry or own, firearms owners ID cards, all seem to fly by without any real opposition, and almost a fatalistic acceptance.


I guess what I’m really surprised about is America is not on EBAY yet! I looked! Shouldn’t we at least have the opportunity to bid!


@Ben_Blanc To answer your question, none of the Biden Plan is acceptable. @Scott52 I understand your passion after seeing this:

But lets wait for the election results.


Yes it can be corrected. It clearly states in the second amendment of our Constitution.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

It says it right there “a well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state”

That means as citizens of this great nation we have the right, nay the responsibility to prevent the overthrow of a communist administration. That amendment gives us the right to protect this great nation and secure the freedom of the people.

I will stand up for the freedom of this country for my children and the children of their children to live as free as we have up to this point.


I’m not sure I can wait til Pelosi unveils her banner under which her underlings will March. Is this the banner that will fly above the Capitol Bldg, could it already be flying proudly over her well guarded mansion?

Is anyone here prepared to live under this banner???


Those are all tru statements, however, after the NAZI’s gain control of the military (commander in chief) GAME OVER! Screw the microphone drop, they are going to drop the flag! As I’ve said in the past, we can’t win from our doorsteps!


Is it possible Nike is already preparing customized arm bands?

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As I read all of their platform, my heart sank to an all new low. If this is allowed to happen, civil war will be the result. I think they know that. Worse yet is they are prehaps positive they can win it. If I am correct, then we will have no choice but to resist.

Do they really think that the bulk of our military will attack 2A people? If that is what they are counting on, they might be in for a rude shock. Some will, but most wont. Most will either sit it out or cross the lines.

This bolshivek, commie crap is not America. Free men and women will not accept such tyranny.

All of this has happened before. All of this will happen again.

Thank you @Ben_Blanc for posting this.


I didn’t look, but I assume this is from Biden’s website on gun control?

Most of this is unacceptable, but there are a few items I could support. Most of my objections revolve around are we punishing people who break the law or punishing gun owners just because they own guns?

Every measure in anyone’s gun control agenda should address what problem are they solving. Does this reduce suicides? Does this reduce gang violence? Does this reduce murder/crime? Does this reduce mass shootings?

Unacceptable. You can’t hold manufacturers liable when a person uses their product illegally.

“This law protects these manufacturers from being held civilly liable for their products – a protection granted to no other industry” sounds like a blatant lie. Plenty of examples abound, you can’t sue Honda for the actions of a drunk driver, a knife maker if their knife is used in murder, a baseball bat maker if their bat is used in crime.

Unacceptable. Will have zero effect on gun violence deaths in this country.

The number of people killed by what they claim to be an assault weapon (semi-auto rifles) is a fraction of a fraction of a percent. If you confiscated every semi-auto rifle in the country tomorrow, you would have effectively zero percent decrease in gun deaths. Suicides don’t use them, criminals don’t use them (too hard to hide). Good luck getting them from gang-bangers.

As has been seen in several states now, what they are doing is expanding the definition of “assault weapon” to include most semi-autos even pistols and shotguns. So they pass legislation that bans “assault weapons” and then it turns out that Glock 19 you bought during COVID-panic is now illegal too. No thanks.

And you can’t buyback what you never sold to me. It’s using everyone’s tax dollars to buy firearms that will get tossed into a shredder. As we’ve seen in Australia and now most recently New Zealand, they never offer you the full value of what you paid for it. So you lose on so many fronts

Unacceptable. I’m pulling these out because they are particularly disingenuous…

Unacceptable. Unenforceable without nationwide registration (which is a no-no) and without the gubment periodically checking on you to make sure you still have what you say you have and you didn’t sell it. See NYC gun permits and their “inspections” to see what that looks like.

Also, does nothing to stop gun violence. Suicides? Nope. Criminals? Nope. No law-abiding citizen knowingly sells firearms to felons or crazy people.

Unacceptable. The Obama-Biden policy was inadvertently (hopefully not purposefully) removing the rights of wounded Veterans who received disability and had at some point had a mental issue like PTSD or had signed off managing their finances. This is probably the only time ever that I will link to a Vox article, but here you go for more details on why it was bad.

Unacceptable. You should never lose a constitutional right because of a misdemeanor. If it is a “serious” crime, then it should be a felony. Period. Full stop. Do that, and the person loses their gun rights (among others). If it’s not that serious of a crime, you get a misdemeanor and you don’t loose your rights (guns or otherwise).

Unacceptable. There is zero reason a background check should take more than 72 hours. There is very little reason it should take more than 72minutes. We have computers now. What is the hold up? If you extend the time to 10days, that just means the Gubment will take 10 days to decide. It’s not like they are performing extra checks, interviews with friends/family, etc. All of the NICS data is in a database ready to be looked up.

Unacceptable. Another half-truth (more like 1/10th truth).

"Federal law enforcement officials say that about 430,000 names of wanted people removed from the database were from Massachusetts.

Commissioner James Slater of the Massachusetts Department of Criminal Justice Information Services said that the reason that his state had so many fugitives in the FBI database is that state policy required sending the bureau the names of all people with an outstanding warrant, whether it was for misdemeanors or felonies."

Because Massachusetts state law prevents fugitives from buying guns, those individuals have now been added back to the federal database under the “state prohibitor” category and will be prevented from purchasing a firearm, he said.

Unacceptable. Again, won’t do anything to stop gun violence. Suicides? Nope. Criminals? Nope. Mass shootings? Nope.

They throw this one around “Did you know anyone can just buy a gun online!?!?!” As if criminals just order one from Amazon and it shows up on their door.

I am actually loosely OK with this. I need to see the details before I give it a :+1: though.

Unacceptable. I am already on the fence on ERPOs. I am dubious about their effectiveness to accomplish what they say it will, at the expense of very serious trampling on several constitutional rights, and I’m becoming increasingly convinced there are already existing “better” options (in some states). “Incentivizing” always results in doing more of it even when not needed. We’ve all seen the police when they get quotas to fill, and telling the police to go to more places and take people’s stuff, especially now-a-days just sounds like a poor idea all around.

Unacceptable. Again, won’t do anything to stop gun violence. Suicides? Nope. Criminals? Nope. Mass shootings? Nope.

Unacceptable. Same as the “incentive” for ERPOs. IIRC, we already saw some states throwing all sorts of people into the list just to get their numbers up.

Acceptable. I’m good with giving the FBI money to make sure their computers stay turned on so we don’t run into the 3-day limit. Just don’t incentivize it.

In general, I agree we need to stop domestic violence. But Biden is connecting some dots in, um, interesting ways.

Unacceptable. If memory serves, there was a whole lot of gun control and other stuff pushed into this bill that had nothing to do with women being safe. Some of the things being pushed could actually be weaponized by abusers to remove firearms from their victims. Which is a shame, because also IIRC, there was some good stuff in the bill as well.

Acceptable. There is some stretching here to tie sexual harassment with mass shootings and extremism (like… ISIS? antifa? alt-right?) and violence against women.

All of those should be investigated, and I support that. But Biden’s lumping them all in the same bucket seems… awkward.

Also, the headline says “online harassment”, but the description says “online sexual harassment”. Both need investigating.

Acceptable. On the surface this sounds good, but I need to see details and/or research into Maryland’s program.

Unacceptable. There is another thread on here just on Smart Guns. This is a hard pass.

Unacceptable. This is something that needs a carrot, not a stick.

There are huge swaths of the country where your 5yr old goes out shooting with his/her parents. Where < 18yrs old have successfully defended themselves at home with firearms and there are very few accidents. Homes where a shotgun just sits on the wall, loaded, and no one ever touches it. Why? because the culture of guns in those communities is such that people just grow up with and around them and know how to handle them safely.

For the parts of the country where that is NOT the case… Education on proper storage of firearms, what age you can/should introduce children to firearms, and how to introduce them. Incentives like tax rebates on buying a new safe. This is how you solve this problem.

Unacceptable. See above.

Also worth noting that Biden says the Heller decision was a mistake, which this one is pretty much flying in the face of.

Acceptable. VERY acceptable. Prosecute the law-breakers instead of persecuting the law-abiding always gets a :+1: from me.

Mostly Acceptable, but likely not very effective. The problem is that 95% (close to real number) of NICS failures are incorrect denials. Criminals know whether or not they will pass a NICS check and they generally won’t even try it.

Unacceptable. Law-abiding people will immediately report their stuff stolen as soon as they find out, no legal “requirement” is needed. I believe this is meant to give a penalty to someone who claims “oh i lost it a year ago” when their firearm is wrapped up in a crime scene. Right problem, wrong solution. Giving a criminal a slap on the wrist does nothing to the criminal, but for those who lose their firearms and the first they hear about it is when the PoPo shows up at their front door having a fine or misdemeanor (i haven’t seen it a felony) can be life-changing.

You may wonder “who doesn’t know their firearm is stolen?”. I can tell you I know someone who does not shoot often and keeps his firearm locked and in a hidden place that no one frequents (he has multiple small children). If someone stole it the day after he locked it away after his last range trip, it could easily go a year+ before he realized it was missing.

An elderly person who keeps a pistol in the nightstand, doesn’t use/access it much. Maybe a widow keeps around a firearm from their dead spouse “just in case”. Again, it may be years before they realize it was stolen. Sometimes unscrupulous family members, looking for a quick buck will steal Grandpa’s revolver knowing he won’t miss it.

Unacceptable. Criminals just buy their guns on the black market. The only people making “ghost guns” are people keeping it out of the prying eyes of the Gubment… as it should be :wink:

This is also unenforceable.

Acceptable, but probably not in the way Biden is thinking. We have a bajillion (OK i think over 20k?) laws on the books related to firearms. Find the people that break those laws instead of creating new laws to trap otherwise law-abiding citizens.

ATF is Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms… Those three have nothing to do with each other. Sure re-structure it.

Acceptable? I’m not sure the ATF is the right entity for it, but tracking illegal trafficking by straw purchaser bought in one place and sold somewhere else I can appreciate.

Acceptable. Very acceptable. There are programs out there that have helped curb urban violence like Operation Ceasefire in Boston in the early 2000s (late 90s?). They are expensive and take time to work, but they have worked. This path targets the 2nd largest group in “gun violence” which is murders, mostly in urban areas, and mostly gang-related.

There is another thread on here about “Real Solutions for reducing Violent Crime” with other ideas, mostly revolving around giving urban youth a “better option” than violence.

Acceptable, mostly. The CDC is not the right place for this IMO. People quickly forget that Obama allowed the CDC to perform studies to great fanfare from anti-gun groups. The very first (and only?) report the CDC produced was the report that said there are between 500k-3M legal defensive gun uses per year and those gun-using victims had generally lower injury rates… and we never heard another peep about it.

My problem is categorizing this as a Public Health Epidemic. Public, um OK. Health? Epidemic? I’m not sure CDC is best equipped to research suicides (mental health issue), and they certainly aren’t equipped to handle murder/crime, and mass shootings are a mix of both. Murder/Crime can certainly be passed to the FBI, I’m not sure who would best handle suicides.

Unacceptable. He doesn’t have to push for it, nor sign it if it comes on his desk, but prohibit? What problem is this solving? Several states have allowed teachers to be armed (not mandatory in any way) and there hasn’t been a rash of teacher involved shootings. Anecdotally, after Parkland many of the popular firearms instructors noted they had huge increases in requests from teachers and some were offering scholarships/reduced prices to their classes for teachers.

Acceptable. I would like to see more of a comitment to suicide by our Veterans. At one point they were committing suicide at a rate of 22 per day. That is ~8k per year, which is almost a third of all suicides. If we do nothing else other than help our Veterans, we can make a huge dent in these numbers.

Acceptable. I should note, that the fear of school shootings is a product Democrat/MSM making these things worse.

Trauma informed, culturally responsive sounds a bit much but in general I support the idea of supporting those exposed to violence.


I know a lot of military men and women that are going to be willing to stand and fight for the Constitution don’t believe that they’re going to do nothing and just take commands from a communist government.

Your right @Scott52 this isn’t just a civil war issue. This is a world issue the Communists are coming to attack this country and for ce with other communist countries this is going to be a lot bigger than a civil war


We’ve all known of the “shot heard around the world”! Now it’s the statement heard around the world that will bring the United States of America to its knees, “We’re Coming For Your Guns and your religion”. If those aren’t fighting words, then I don’t know what is? Maybe it was “if you want to keep your doctor… or we’re “NOT GOING TO PACK THE COURT!”
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