Florida Man v Car Thieves

Legal & Second Amendment
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It changes because we’re pissed! If I’m right crime is still illegal, I’m not sure, but I’m going with my gut.

They are free to take what I busted my a$$ for. Ok, maybe you’re right deadly force for stealing, not good. But I should then feel free to pistol whip the phucker or at the very least chop off their hands! I understand as well that water boarding is not considered deadly force!

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Torture is not deadly force!

Less than lethal and I 10000000% guarantee it never steals again.
CRIME PREVENTION, not crime clean up, and funnel more hard earned money to an insurance company! Not to mention the re-purchase!

You file a claim for stolen goods or a stolen car, the burden is on the VICTIM. Only the victim!
We ultimately and ALWAYS receive it up the a$$ when you’re a good guy!
I’m tired of being the good guy! I worked very hard for every phuckin thing I own, but now I understand I could have just stolen it all whenever the need presented?
Boy was I a stupid SOB. Worked hard, did my phuckin homework, studied, joined the UNITED STATES SUBMARINE FORCE, 8 HONORABLE years, owned a business, struggled, built my home, saved ALL my money and you want me to just go out there and replace what was stolen at 10X the cost of the original! ( my wife and I bought once cried once, almost everything we own). Am I too attached to my things, as much as the MFer that wants to steal it!

It’s not just the stolen property, it’s how many times will the cockroach return! I’ve seen it, experienced it, not buying it anymore!

They’re giving away the farm, I’m not giving away sh/t. As for the Soros backed lawyers, they’ll have to find the body first!
When is that SOB going to pay off my mortgage!

All these dots are connected to the schmuck in the White House!

I’m furious that we’ve permitted crime as an acceptable form of society!

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I’m just going to have to say "no, thanks) to torture for burglary out of an unoccupied vehicle.

That pesky Constitution even has something to say about torture, if one cares what the Constitution says, that is…not all care about it

And yes, torture is going to be considered lethal force. Or are you going to let someone torture your wife and kids and not be willing to use your firearm to prevent them being tortured?

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Nathan, Seriously?

You come out of your House or from Shopping and you see (1-2) people breaking into your Ride…
YOU THINK ABOUT THIS FOR A SECOND NOW… OK?

Do you say to yourself, Oh, man I guess I better take the bus now? Or call the Wife to pick me up?
You’re a better man than I am Gunga-Din. Maybe I’ll wait for the Cops to show? Hmmmmmmmmm
THAT is my TRUCK (or Jag) and you can’t HAVE IT! They cannot have my Tissue box in the back seat!
or my stuffed dragon on my dash. So-Sorry denied!
Will I kill them?
NO
But I will confront them (Armed)
If they have a weapon I hope they have a Burial plan.
It’s time we say NO to rampant Criminality! You CANNOT do as you please without repercussions.
I’ll repecuss someone right into their new grave.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

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Yes, seriously, if someone is breaking into my vehicle, I’m not looking to go out of my way and get into a confrontation with them, it’s not worth the risk over the stuff in my car.

Almost as much as I don’t want to be killed, I don’t want to kill someone, either. Not over the stuff in my car.

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Maybe we should consider the bigger picture…

The broken windows theory states that visible signs of disorder and misbehavior in an environment encourage further disorder and misbehavior, leading to serious crimes. The principle was developed to explain the decay of neighborhoods, but it is often applied to work and educational environments.

We are in the serious crime phase of our lives!

It’s about EVERYTHING that’s going on! Not just one burglary, one stolen car, one rape, one murder, on child abduction, these are occurring on a minute by minute basis in our once quiet neighborhoods.
You should be feeling it by now?

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Perhaps.

But, I’m not law enforcement and I do not have the equipment, training, legal protection, or on-the-way backup to properly handle society’s ills.

Even off duty law enforcement is generally told not to do so, for their own safety.

I still consider it self defense, not change-society-by-fighting-crime as a private citizen. I’ll leave that one to Mr Wayne.

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Until laws start favoring the law-abiding,
I would stay clear of property crimes.

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You are correct of course. The reason why this topic is so contested, is because in so many places LE is either blocked from, or abdicated their responsibility for protecting citizens. The citizens are also blocked by laws from resisting the crime wave.

This wont last. Either legal framework will change, or expect the rise of extra-legal authority, aka, the Godfathers, who will take care of the neighborhood.

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This is where you need to know your state’s laws. KY castle doctrine specifically mentions and includes car jacking as being part of it. Just like I can legally assume a person breaking into my home illegally can be shot, I can shoot a person breaking into my car to take it from me with me in it.

Personally I’m shooting at him while the car is driving down the driveway and I’m on the porch.

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I think you mean when laws start favoring morals.

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Did you forget to type the word not in this sentence? (I legit do that myself sometimes)

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Here is a third opinion. I think you are both right in certain areas. I would always think the guy directly in front of me is the alpha and would be my first target…if I was by myself. If my wife was with me, I would probably give everything I had to keep her from being harmed. But I totally understand Roberts frustration with the criminals getting by because no one does anything about the problem. If I was by myself it would be different. I would unload on the leader and try to get anyone else involved afterwards. You never know when you may walk into another situation when your loved ones are not with you. Then it is time to do what YOU have to do.

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For Myself only Brother, I am waiting till they get to the bend in my driveway (still on my property)
Then I will light off the Phoo-Gas Pods! … Jeez , I’m gonna miss that car!

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I sure don’t want to eat your bread if it destroys cars. :sunglasses:

Fougasse: Provencal Flat Bread - Fougasse (pronounced foo-gaas) is a flat bread from Provence in the south of France, however its origin goes back to ancient Rome.

Panis focacius was a Roman flat bread which was cooked in the ashes of a wood burning hearth (called a focus). Later, these quick-cooking flat breads became a traditional way to test the temperature of a wood burning oven to tell if it was hot enough to bake the loaves of bread.

Okay, okay, I know you mean an exploisve that uses Napalm to set things on fire, but I am a foodie, first. :sunglasses:

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Once you get past the Petroleum vapors the Breads quite tasty Bruh! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:makes a hell-of-a Submarine sandwich :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: It’s the shrapnel bits you have to watch out for! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Just like eating game birds, then. :sunglasses:

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Funny that? When I hit the birds w/ my .44 there’s really not much left…I’d starve if it wasn’t for Wendy’s Baconator!

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Yeah but how many boxes of ammo do you have to shoot before you hit it?:joy::joy::joy::sunglasses:

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I Honestly don’t Hunt little Birdy’s (So Robert you’re safe around me! :rofl:)
I had my fill of (2) legged Vermin also
If we have to once again I will but age softens the desire (so I’ve heard from a friend :crazy_face:)

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Florida FS 776.031

(1) A person is justified in using or threatening to use force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to prevent or terminate the other’s trespass on, or other tortious or criminal interference with, either real property other than a dwelling or personal property, lawfully in his or her possession or in the possession of another who is a member of his or her immediate family or household or of a person whose property he or she has a legal duty to protect. A person who uses or threatens to use force in accordance with this subsection does not have a duty to retreat before using or threatening to use such force.

(2) A person is justified in using or threatening to use deadly force only if he or she reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony. A person who uses or threatens to use deadly force in accordance with this subsection does not have a duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground if the person using or threatening to use the deadly force is not engaged in a criminal activity and is in a place where he or she has a right to be.

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