In your opinion, maybe.
Legally, no, it’s not.
(not a lawyer, consult your local listings/ask an attorney before considering the use of lethal force to protect property just because you are present for the property crime)
Also consider the USCCA “shark tank” analogy. Would you jump into a (dangerous, like, man eating species) shark tank to save the thing that you are considering protecting with lethal force? If not, lethal force is almost surely not worth it
Good point Nathan. Lets consider though a similar situation: looting of a business. Should the guy watch thieves passively, may he open his mouth? Thats also like jumping into a shark tank, risky, an escalation.
I strongly disagree with the implication that opening your mouth is the same as or substantially similar to shooting someone.
Words and lethal force are very different things and very different levels of force (debatable on whether or not words are a level of force at all, but I’ll go with they kinda sorta are since words are on a force continuum/force wheel for LE)
I trust someone who carries a gun is fully aware of this
So what do you say to a guy who is reaching to tear earrings out of your wife’s ears? To deescalate and not jump into a shark tank.
Stop or I’ll shoot is de-escalating if it gets the burglar to stop. If the burglar keeps escalating to the point of doing grave bodily harm to your wife shoot him to de- escalate until he does.
Talk about moving the goal posts.
What scenario would you like to discuss?
General ‘property crime’, stealing products from a store, or physically attacking your wife?
My expectation is that people who carry guns for self defense recognize these are different scenarios.
Have I mentioned how great the Protector Academy training and education at uscca.com are recently? It’s good stuff. 
Fair. Lets make the scenario where your (or mine, or anyone else’s) wife works sales in a small jewelry store, so these earrings are not on her person, but rather in a glass case. Thug smashes the case with a hammer, glass shards spray in all directions…
What should we say to deescalate? 3lbs hammer, not to leave out any details.
Have I mentioned that your assuming you are the only one who watches these videos and should lecture others - is condescending?
Lots of unknown variables and some interpretation available depending on what we fill in in our own mental image but I’m saying create distance, awareness that the perpetrator may not be alone so keep that head on a swivel, mental rehearsal of how to access weapon if it becomes necessary, but probably let the person take the jewelry and be on their way.
No deescelation, they are after the store’s jewelry, fine, whatever. Just let 'em, not worth the risk of injury/more to do anything.
Apologies if so, but, come on, someone stealing items from a store and ripping earrings out of wife’s ears are clearly significantly different scenarios and it’s hardly fair to take my personal stance on one of them as applying to the other
But for the record I don’t think I ever recommended de-escalation for any of these. Thief wants to steal store products, okay, have at it, it’s not worth risking my or my wife’s life and limb to interfere with property theft from a retail outlet
It is only condescending if you allow it to be.
This is a very good point, as it happens.
If you are not being directly ‘targeted’ or are not the direct/immediate focus of the person’s attention, opening your mouth (as it were) to them, definitely increases your risk. If you have a person behaving anti socially, amorally, illegally, and you speak up in a manner that indicates a challenge, you volunteer yourself to be their focal point…is it worth it?
Definitely a valid consideration.
Sometimes the juice isn’t worth the squeeze, or the risk isn’t worth the ‘reward’…and before interjecting yourself into something, you definitely need to do some mental calculus on “is it worth it?”
Like, just me here, someone wants to steal earrings from the jewelry store counter…okay I’ll “be good witness”…someone walks into the local school with a rifle and shots start ringing out, insert expletives here game on expletives here I will (literally, not figuratively) “die on that hill” no second thoughts no cares given.
Everything in between…“it depends”
More or less
/stream of conciousness
I totally agree, but how do you know for sure, especially after witnessing the violence the thief created right in front of you?
Also, saying it is fine could be ok for a large chain store, but for a small business it coukd be a ruinous and life changing experience. Who will stand up for these people?
I think it is definitely worth it. Criminals are cowards. They have to be stood up to if one knows how. I am not trying to talk tough. If we are trained and know how to stand up to them it is the only way to stop them. I hope I am not getting triggered. The world is getting soft and criminals know it. The police can’t handle all the crime and when one needs a cop now, they are minutes away. It is all fine and good if one doesn’t feel safe standing up to them I don’t think it is doing anyone(us or the criminals )any good if we let them get away with it. That is my opinion.
You don’t have to know “for sure”
How can you even know “for sure” that you exist and aren’t a simulation? I mean, quite literally, we as a country/state put people to the literal death penalty without knowing “for sure” (I would propose that 'beyond a reasonable doubt =/= ‘for sure’, and we have had literal death row inmates exonerated on new evidence).
If you think it’s worth your wife’s life on the line to defend the store’s ability to stay in business, well, that is your/her decision. Me? I don’t care if the jewelry being stolen means the store goes out of business, I wouldn’t tell my wife that means it’s worth risking her life/limb.
Self defense vs stuff defense.
Some criminals are cowards.
Some are alphas that would kill us (or die trying) for saying they are cowards
Be careful, you may not know which one you have in front of you until the chips are all played. Are you sure you want your wife to be the one calling the bet?
What would make you think they are alphas? What makes you think you are not?
If they we alphas they wouldn’t be trying to rob you.
perhaps we disagree on the definition of “alpha”. Not really something we need to hash out though
Point being, there are plenty of criminals out there who are not cowards, and who would probably challenge you directly, immediately, physically, if you called them a coward or offered them a challenge
Assuming that every single criminal out there is a coward who will tuck tail and run if challenged is an extremely dangerous assumption, there are some criminals who are extremely confident, physically imposing, and extraordinarily experienced in interpersonal violence, who will not think twice
Do you know ‘for sure’ which one you or your wife have in front of you/her? Including accomplices you don’t see yet? And it’s worth the risk of your/her life and limb to challenge them over the store’s product being stolen?
(my answer is, no, it’s not worth it)
I don’t know what makes you think we lost before we started the battle. If we lose the battle the criminals will take over. It is not an option. I hope you don’t think this is going to get fixed by a politician who promises they are going to do something about it. The only thing they can do is encourage us to do something about it. Please help. I don’t get it. Please show me where the hope is.
One must have their ego out of the picture, completely. Then one can think - meh, I got insurance, let the police deal with these thugs. One also could think: this car equals my job equals roof over my family. I believe that because of events beyond anyone’s control now, lots of people will move from the former group to the latter. At the same time ranks of thieves and looters will swell. Its coming.
I cannot ignore this reality and say, “let them eat cake, let them get insurance payment”. I believe it is possible to have laws and codes that are promoting safe and just society, less victims, and definitely no abuse of victims by the power.