Here is another one from Florida and I think it’s an interesting take. How do you feel about legal gun owners stepping in to protect their county as special deputies, if the deputies can’t handle it?
Can the Sheriff legally do that, maybe he can since he announced it?
There are a lot of things to consider and it seems kind of reckless although the article does not say this. If you drive around and try to distinguish who is commiting a crime and who isn’t in the middle of chaos you may be wrong at some point. Which brings up this point, what kind of protections would special deputies have?
I would personally only protect my own neighborhood where I know what is normal and not I would leave public areas to regular LEOs unless something crazy is going on like a mass shooter (think grocery store), even then in this situation I would only fight back if not outgunned by multiple attackers unless there are other armed citizens helping. This is the type of crazy scenario I see when people say defund the police. I prefer reform the Police not defund. Police need more training if anything.
Anyone who’s watched more than a couple episodes of the Rifleman knows you need to be reaaaaaal careful about who you pin a badge on to so I would hope some level of precaution was done prior to any type of “deputizing.”
However if needed (say Katrina level event) I could see it certainly serving a purpose. Aren’t we (royal we all of us) the “militia” that the Constitution is referring to? And through that same principle wouldn’t local law enforcement backup potentially apply?
I like where your head’s at though @I_am_Harry and think it’s reserve only and in your own neighborhood so the new deputies actually know what is normal in that neighborhood. Heck, I don’t know that I’d go much further than my cul de sac, lol.
Still caution would need to be used and maybe an officer or deputy posted with the new deputies to control them (so instead of three regular deputies assigned to that neighborhood, there is one regular deputy and two newly deputized). I don’t know that deputizing an entire swath of the population (every gun owner) would be a good idea…that’s how the Aubrey situation occurred ( civilians acting as LEO without proper authority and/or knowledge/training).
The sheriff is the top law officer in the state. he can decide not to go ahead with Sheriffs sales and can even forbid Federal law enforcement from acting in their county. Many people don’t know how much power they really have. So yes, he can form a posse if he wants.
Why are we even questioning this? Sign me up NOW! Can he do it, yes, will he do it? We are in a Katrina level event times 1000. Does not even compare, Katrina was an act of God, insurrection is a voluntary act by un-American people who claim all American rights.
The country is finished, do you stand with freedom or are you going down like sheep? Seriously ask yourself that question. If I have to leave my wife and drive thousands of miles to save my country, so be it! Yes I said country, not neighborhood!
If I survive I’ll get back to my wife. We speak every day about “saving the second amendment and all of our rights”, well now is the time to see if you believe in it with your life. I took an oath many years ago, I still believe in fighting enemies even domestic ones. We are under attack, those are not just images on TV, our citizens are dead, beaten, broke and scared for their way of life, which was freedom to pursue life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Some of us have not forgotten! Sign me up. Let’s Rock!
I was starting a conversation, I agree the communists have come out of the woodwork inciting violence and anarchy among legit protestors. The ones inciting and masterminding the violence, chaos and cancel culture which is suppression of freedom of speech are communists and are enemies of the people. They call all who don’t agree with them racists, bigots and whatever other buzzwords they like using. I find it amusing when they call me that since I am none of those things. Proof this is not a race/ethnicity thing? People of all ethnicities are on both sides. For example I am Puerto Rican=Native American, European and Black.
I’m very surprised Facebook is not backing down from protecting Freedom of Speech unlike Twitter… let’s see how long it lasts.
That was not a question of your question. Your question was awesome. It’s the shocking nature of the question that a Sheriff would deputize civilians. Sorry I wasn’t as clear as I should be. Sometimes fingers type quicker than brain.
In Kentucky, the Sheriff can deputize as many people as he chooses as special deputies for emergencies. And the Sheriff determines what is an emergency for the purpose of deputizing special deputies.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m all about volunteering for this if given the opportunity. How would a sheriff filter out who he will deputize? He would have to screen each individual. Things are not so great now, but what would happen if a deputy of law enforcement just lost his temper and shot someone? That sheriff now has to bear the repercussions of deputizing that person. It’s not like a law enforcement officer gets a week at training camp and then goes to work. I’m sure there is a system in place for that, I just don’t feel like Johnny trigger running around with Billy bad@$$ is a good idea. I would like to say that the people here are level headed and responsible, but what about the dude 2 streets down that bbq’s batteries and secretly dreams about shooting someone, but to everyone he seems fine?
For some reason I choose not to believe that, that the bad
guy is coming to our rescue or has a willingness to assist law enforcement under false pretenses. I could be naive.
From a law enforcement point of view, I’m sure a few questions should weed out some undesirables.
Call me whatever you want, maybe I am overthinking it, but all these idiots are showing up to riot under the false pretense of protesting police brutality and whatnot… realistically what is the difference?
Edit: it seems like people that are intent on making something look bad and cause havoc don’t really care what they have to do. People burning their own neighborhood and driving business away from their area don’t care seem about that, as long as they get to destroy and disrupt.
Maybe it’s time I start thinking like a bad guy. I was just hopeful. I’m getting to old for this crap. This crap should have ended weeks ago.
Guess I’m kinda tired, day in day out our country is being shredded. And I am completely powerless on a national basis. At my castle I’m fine. My wife and I discussed becoming sheep and we decided against it!
If you want to defeat your enemy think as they do. When you do home defense drills, you think about what a burglar would do If you are at battle with a wise opponent, play chess. Victory isn’t always about throwing muscle around. In no way am I saying to be a sheep, and I agree that all of this should have been over before it started.
Your Gov’t and mine paid us to think like bad guys when we were in. They did provide me a WHOLE lot more training on that topic than just standard Bubble Head topics but that’s for a camp fire. I dare say that’s what good LEO do.
Unfortunately in this day and age what I am seeing with the news and other intel sources is that this is a mass wave of out of school college kids (dare I say mostly white well supported (by Mommy and Daddy) types) that have all drank the Marxist Koolaid peddled by the professors in the halls of academia and the “forever students” which stay around until they get a PhD and then become professors. That said there have been some interesting bit’s of “coordination” that have occurred and have been quietly talked about in certain circles where the same faces keep showing up at these violent protests “professional agitators”.
I’m not sure a Deputized CCW holder is going to have the discipline to stand in the face of some of these kids all riled up like the NYPD did in city hall. That is the standard, get yelled at, screamed at have stuff thrown at you and hold your ground. AT some point the police and dare I say many others are not just going to stand there and unfortunately it will be wall to wall media coverage of Police Brutality, Right Wing White Supremacy and Right Wing Nationalists (I think I got all the stuff they label patriotic Americans with) that fought back against these child thugs who have never been told NO (and it was meant) they have never had consequences for their actions no matter how vile. The FB / Twitter generation is trying to take over the country with no grasp of how we got here and what prices were paid to get here.
In CA, if screening is necessary, who may be deputized is easier. The County Sheriff’s office issues CCW permits so those with one have the “minimum training requirements” and are already on a list.
Please note, I’m not trying to discriminate against those who decide not to apply for a conceal carry permit.
My intention wasn’t to question anyone’s integrity, hopefully it didn’t come across that way. I was simply airing my concerns on the matter as my first amendment right allows. I read the article, but to be fair
If we continue to let them have their way, they will always have their way.
Ok! Appreciate the Bubble Head reference. FYI, I think I still have what it takes to stand up to tyranny in my face. There was nothing standard about hunting Russian subs in 1983. Truthfully OK with Bubble Head reference at least you gave it the respect of capitalization.
I do have an idea. Instead of jail time, we export theses geniuses to Venezuela for 2-5 years just so they get a feel for true socialism. Just toss them and on an airplane. Best part their parents and the tax payers don’t incur the tuition costs. The University of Venezuela is always looking for fresh meat.
I know the sheriff can deputize, but the question is how its done? I could see CCW holders going to the station and raising their hands and being sworn in as deputies. Maybe even sign some simple forum. BUT over TV could he actually swear in 250K state legal gun owners? That seems just a little too loose, unless he somehow limited it to licensed conceal carriers with THAT state’s permit. Don’t misunderstand me I don’t worry about those with permits but just anybody is wild west days.
and are already on a list.