When your Rights bump up against Snow Flakes

That sign doesn’t count if it were in Tennessee: doesn’t have the unconstitutional “legal code” reference number on it, it is not at eye level and the size of a billboard. Secondly, in Tennessee, you have to ignore a direct trespass notice from the property owner before the police can get involved IF the sign meets ALL the standards… small signs behind tinted glass on the ground level in a dimly lit building are hardly visible - one might never see them.

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@Rickey17 , Where’d ya go Brother, I thought we were have an intelligent, civil, informed conversation here…

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Don’t be usin’ words I don’t know what they mean…

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The same as if he was just carrying a gun. I would be paying attention to him too!

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now a days ya got to look at nearly everything as a potential weapon!!!

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He will be back next year. :man_shrugging:
Now yer stuck with us lowbrows again. :face_exhaling:

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I’ve seen that often. Also have noticed places have removed the no gun signs completely. I think they might have noticed a drop in business.

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I’m finding I’ve been just plain wrong about places. Places where I thought they’d be anti 2A, places I thought they and the other customers would throw a fit, come to find out many if not most of them are very 2A friendly, they just like to be the grey business (play on grey man). They just don’t make a deal of “Bring a gun in if you’d like, if you pull yours we’ll pull ours…” so to speak.

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That sign totally counts anywhere.

Under federal law, you cannot. It is a federal law, not local so no sir, you cannot, legally do that. However, unless someone searches you you can do anything, right???

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Law only requires it to be posted, it doesnt tell them where or how it has to be posted. It is private property so they can put the sign anywhere they wish. It is not a violation of the law to go in with a firearm but they have every right to ask you to leave.

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Like in this article, Federal Law or not, the local Police don’t enforce it. They go by State Laws in these cases.

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Local laws here in Colorado require it to be clearly posted, between waist and eye level.

However, the signs hold no weight of law, the most the business can do is ask you to leave, then have the police trespass you if you refuse.

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Similar for Tennessee, it is a valid reason (lol) for trespassing - nothing more; however in TN it has to have the magic legal words in a prescribed font size and minimum overall size and “prominently displayed”… I like the placement guidelines for CO - between waist and eye level - easier to justify :roll_eyes: it was “prominently placed”. The only legal consequences in TN if the police get involved, are supposed trespassing charges.

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That sign says STUART DOESN’T SHOP THERE.

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Agree.

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It can be hard to tell if someone coming towards you on a sidewalk is walking up to you or walking by until after they have passed by, or not.

Once someone has landed on my threat radar I work under the assumption that they might end up directly approaching me or my family members until they prove otherwise. I don’t just assume they will pass harmlessly by and let them drop off my radar.

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This is a really good part of this conversation.
A weird looking guy talking to himself smiling and staring at the kids as he walks by the kids at the bus stop is just some weird guy. A guy carrying a rifle is all of the sudden a Code Red danger? When I see a gun in the wild I make an assessment of the person with the gun but I can’t say I go immediately to “OMG A Guy With A Gun!!”.
Are we saying we see a gun, we see the kids at the bus stop so we go directly to this is Bad?

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Context matters.

Person with a gun in the wild, I would cautiously assume a hunter while not lowering my guard. A person who’s in his natural habitat, maybe?

Same guy at the bus stop, I know better than screaming, “gun! He’s got a gun!”
I would ask myself, what’s his business there with his “tool?”

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That is where you are wrong. It has to be displayed where it can be easily seen in a prominent place. It can’t be posted behind a stack of boxes or down in a corner of a door covered in dirt. That is the same as posting a speed limit sign behind a tree or bush.

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