What is the deal on Utah's concealed cary permit?

I live in Virginia and my local gun range has a course for obtaining a Utah concealed cary permit and it always fills up immediately when it is offered. One of the prerequisites is a valid Virginia permit. The course description doesn’t offer much detail, only that a Utah permit is honored in multiple states. My Virginia permit is also honored in multiple states and I have never been able to get good explanation from the staff at the range as to why I need a Utah permit in addition to my Virginia one.

Is there anyone in this forum that can explain what is the advantage of having a Utah permit?

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Here in Michigan the wordage of our “registration” requirement is such that having an out of state cpl exempts you from having to file your papers with the police.

I don’t know your laws in Virginia but I suspect it may be something similar.

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Have you checked the reciprocity map to see if it benefits you in states that don’t honor your Virginia permit? Do you frequently travel to states that don’t honor your permit?

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I have looked at the reciprocity map and there are a couple of states that honor Utah and not Virginia. Pennsylvania and Delaware are two that are close by. Maybe that’s it and there are a fair number of people in my area that travel to them frequently. Of course, you have to go through Maryland to get there and Maryland is not a very gun friendly state and honors no other state permit.

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Only question left to ask is the expense worth it to carry in those states that don’t honor Virginia?

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I think you are probably right, unless there is something else I’m missing. Not worth it to me for the few times I travel in that direction. Thanks for your input.

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A lot of the Illinois instructors add Utah training at no extra charge. It adds a lot of the western states to the list of where one could carry, with an Illinois. Florida is similar for us. Some of my friends have Illinois, Florida, and Utah. With that trifecta, it brings the states one could carry in up to 42 I believe. The only ones not on the list, don’t have reciprocity with anybody.

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Won’t do you any good in PA, sorry to say.


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Looks like you’d pick up WI and WA though.

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This is really good information. I see now that PA only honors the Utah resident permit. Last time I was in WA was around 1980 and WI about 2002. Looks like, for me, passing on the Utah class is a no brainer. You all just saved me a hundred bucks. Thanks.

I wonder why this class is so popular around here? Probably because people have more money than brains.

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Exactly, they push one class around here but I can’t remember which one. I’m in Tennessee, we’re already at 38 states recognizing ours, so I honestly could care less about picking up 2 more for $100+. I think they market this to people to try to make them think it’s going to open up so many states, when it won’t.

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UT is one of the most universally accepted nationwide and it never hurts to have a second particularly in the event you get a wallet snatched.

I have a daily wallet for around here and a second “just in case” wallet In which I carry my pocket passport, a state issued ID, and a UT CCP just in case my daily carry wallet should be lost or stolen.

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Not sure what they are charging elsewhere but my UT Permit only cost me I think 100.00. To me it’s worth it just as an insurance policy.

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For me, the addition of the UT non resident permit to my VA permit allows me to carry in WA when I am visiting family.

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I went and got my Florida non-resident permit just so I could go through two states when my wife and I took our motorcycle trip from Wisconsin to Las Vegas.
Not knowing what might happen and where for sure we might need to stop or want to detour it was a no brainer for me.
Besides I have friends and relatives in Vegas so I you never know when I might be traveling that way again.

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For me, having a Utah permit allows me to carry in 3 additional states. No big deal right ? Except I planned a pheasant hunting trip to Nebraska. Nebraska does not recognize a Mississippi conceal carry permit, however they do recognize a Utah one. I checked on it. If you have a permit from the state you reside in then getting the Utah one is as simple as a 1 hours class, then file paperwork, then to renew the Utah one I think its like 5 dollars. It’s super cheap to renew at any rate. That is why I got the Utah one.

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That’s got to be helpful. Do you have photo copies of your credit/debit cards in there as well so it’s easier to report them lost or stolen?

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That’s a good idea. I would add that the backup wallet should be stored in a fireproof box, minimum two hours, or off site. My wife has a family member who had a house fire and they only got out wearing their pajamas. Wallets, other important papers and both their cars were all destroyed in the fire. They went through hell trying to get things replaced. The DMV wouldn’t replace the drivers license without ID and the car rental company said no license no car. The had similar problems with their bank. Finally, in desperation one of their son had to fly in and pay for new clothes, car rental, etc until they could get a birth certificate from the state.

My passport, birth certificate and some other important stuff are all stored at my son’s house in his gun safe. His are in mine. The odds of us both having fire on the same day are practically nonexistent.

I like the idea of having the Utah license as a backup.

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That makes a ton of sense, @Boyd. Are you in the same city?

I’ve got pictures of everything on my phone in a password protected area. I also have my birth certificate and a photo ID stashed at my moms house.

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Already lined up to get VA nonresidents, I’ll look at UT and FL to see what the additional gain is. The training I did in MI is also qualified in FL so that one is probably next.