Thanks for the info!
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I so agree with you. I donât live too far from Chiraq, They just keep voting for people that really donât care about law and order. They talk the big talk but in the end they are just interested in the kick-backs they can get. In my opinion there was only one choice for an honest mayor, who truly cared for itâs law abiding citizens. Willie Wilson should have been voted for, he appears to care, and he has enough money to not have to be interested in corrupt kick-backs. Just my opinion.
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While searching for reliable reports on the supposed recent Walmart looting in Chicago I came across the article below.
Warning this is satire and not based on actual facts even though everything in it rings so true:(
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I wasnât aware of Mr.Wilson, so I looked him up in Wiki. In 2019:
Wilson was endorsed by the Cook County Republican PartyâŠ
Wilson failed to make it to the runoffâŠAgain, Wilsonâs endorsement was actively sought by both candidates in the runoff. Wilson endorsed Lori Lightfoot.
Any questions about Wilson, or Cook Co. Republican Party for that matter?
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Yeah, thatâs, true, to a point, I guess, butâŠthere are on average 6 million car accidents in the US annually vs 0 avg annual uses of a spare mag by a concealed carrier. Just to quantify it a little
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I donât live in Illinois, but Iâm close enough to be stuck with their news media. From what I have seen, does crook county actually have a Republican party? All the candidates as far as I could tell for mayor were all democrats
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By that logic I shouldnât pay for my USCCA membership either. The chances of me ever having to use the insurance benefit are statistically insignificant too. But I still give them a payment every month. I carry a spare in my car. I donât ever go to the range without an IFAK and I never leave the house without a spare mag.
Everyone needs to decide what makes them sleep better at night and an extra 15 rounds that are zero bother to carry do that for me.
Valla con Dios amigoâŠ
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I disagree.
The number of uses of force in self defense annually is not 0. Far from it
The chances of being in a self defense incident are far higher than your chances of needing a gun. If you arenât going to carry membership because you have no chance of defending yourself, you wouldnât own a gun, you wouldnât own pepper spray you wouldnât train self defense, you wouldnât even use situation awareness.
Just sayinâ, car accidents are literally 6 million a year and as far as we know spare mag uses by private carriers are 0, so, the two are really not comparable.
And the number of self defense incidents is significant, especially when compared to ~0. Defensive gun use alone is what thousands/tens of thousands/more?
I know, I know, you canât put a number on or quantify feelings and people feel safer with the spare mag nothing wrong with it. Itâs, just not objectively comparable to 6 million car accidents a year
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Not to beat a dead horse anymore than we need to but there are 290,000,000 vehicles in the USA, about 105,000,000 are automobiles.
There are about 393,000,000 guns in private hands in the USA. It has been proven in many reputable studies that MILLIONS of gun SD incidents are not even reported to ANY authority or level of Law Enforcement by the participants because of fear of repercussion, both on the criminal and the defender side. Gun statistics are about the lest reliable out there right now.
Again, Iâll stick to what feels right for me and I encourage others to do the same.
Thanks!
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Absolutely, stick to what feels right to you.
Buuuut, to beat the dead horse :), I do believe that numbers and facts and quantifying as much as possible is a good thing. For example, some peopleâs feelings are that there is a mass school shooting every day in America. Some people feel their kids are more likely to be shot and killed at school than to be injured in a car accident, for example. They can feel that way all they want, but itâs not true.
Similarly, the odds of having your vehicle damaged in a collision are significantly (and then some) greater than the odds of needing a firearm which is itself significantly (and then some) greater than the odds of needing a spare magazine.
Iâm kind of big on as many facts and as much objective information as possible on all things gun and self defense.
Which does NOT discount people making decisions based on feelings and personal preference. If someone wants to carry a gun and a spare mag but not wear a seat belt for example, that is their choice. There are people who make that choice and objectively I donât think it makes sense, the odds and the stakes donât support it, butâŠwe all get to decide these things for ourselves in the end. Personal decisions donât have to be logical or based on numbers or even be discussed with or justified to other people because it is just that a personal decision
Buuut if that decision is going to be discussed openly and voluntarily in public, I also think itâs fair to evaluate it objectively and openly
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Took it down, I couldnât confirm it either. Thanks. Just got home or I would have caught it sooner.
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I think the video was real. Just likely from 2020. Which would actually still make it valid to this discussion as the 2020 âmostly peaceful protestsâ and looting likely contributed significantly to the millions in loses the Chicago Walmart stores suffered over the past decade.
It just didnât happen this week as some unscrupulous âreportersâ are trying to make us believe. The only reason I caught it was because I wanted to find some more details on the incident.
Think it was good this came up. Helps keep us on our toes:)
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I like old man Mayer Daleyâs solution to this, you loot we shoot!
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Itâs ironic that major cities are now unsustainable, as Agenda 21 and Agenda 30 are plans to get everyone to live in cities. After what weâve seen over the last three years, and now every weekend, how or why would anyone make the decision to either move to or remain in one of these cities?
I think the cities will either empty out (of people who no longer wish to be victims) or remain populated only by the criminal element whose only rule is survival of the fittest (or most heavily armed.) We are seeing that police cannot enforce the law, so they ignore it, or arrive too late to really accomplish anything. Continuing along this trend leads to only one place, and that is anarchy.
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Around here itâs driven by the politicians or so law enforcement says. I ask a group of 5 cops why they donât push out the 20 homeless camped in front of our condo, they said âask the mayor.â.
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Exactly. Humans with an agenda donât seem to learn from history that events can âget away fromâ you quicksmart and in a hurry. Then it doesnât matter much what you think or do, the event is upon you. California cities like San Francisco and LA are essentially failed cities, itâs just that no one has acknowledged it. Chicago, same thing. Trump offered the National Guard to come in and reinforce the CPD in cleaning up the city. LIghtfoot refused. Thus another example of refusing to either realize or act upon the problem(s). So as a result, dozens of Chicago residents are either killed or wounded EVERY WEEKEND. The LameStream Newsmedia does not report on these dozens wounded or killed, so to almost all of America, it didnât happen, and/or no one cares. The police are ordered NOT to do their jobs, or not to do it effectively. The only reason there is still a government is because they have police protection. Failed city.
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The truth. Yes. Voluntarily being the key word here. If you are going to post about semantics because you have a set opinion of a specific term then be prepared to have a discussion on why semantics sucks when it comes to objectivity and ethics.
Thanks for the post.
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Failed cities? Far from it. Johannesburg was a failed city, but - armed private security contractors did an effective job reclaiming some of the skyscrapers, and sending squatters elsewhere.
I hope it wont come to that level of violence in Chicago, SF, etc. but they need to do unpopular things for sure.
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I may not be remembering what all went on in this thread, but, what was the semantics discussion?
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OK what would you call a city where law enforcement is hobbled, and/or the DA frees career criminals without bail; major retailers leave because of looting and danger to their employees; riots and looting spontaneously happen fairly often; there are droves of homeless living in public spaces; feces and used drug paraphenelia litter the streets; and decent people are leaving because of all of the above?
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