Veterans- Can You Believe This!

I don’t think this country will ever recover.
Think about who is going to fill the shoes of yesterday ; it don’t look good.


This is gay. What next?


That is what this country is coming to. I think it is stupid but believe they are trying to please everyone and make people depend on the leaders of the country to make people dislike each other so they can take over and rule the country and take our rights away.


I remember that one of the most embarrassing mistakes we could make was to call a “ma’am” sir.

I wonder if we can blame Barbara Boxer for this one. I still shake my head at this video.
Senator Barbara Boxer: “Don’t Call Me Ma’am” - General Michael Walsh - YouTube


Let’s be careful not to tread into the sad territory of old veterans telling “back in my day” stories.
We don’t have to like the way politicians treat our armed forces, but the average Marine in service is still a stud. They have to do the same job their predecessors did, plus they have to deal with all the woke bull crap.

I mean this not to you personally, but all of us. Sorry if I’m a little sensitive about this, but I don’t have much tolerance for people who sit in the comfort of their mom’s basement and talk $h!t about grunts who are out getting the job done.


Well taken ; well said old chap
Stay sharp


Sad Territory. Hmmm.:thinking:


I’ll say this about that, In my day it was a whole lot different than it is today.


Boxer was late to the game but sure did her fair share of damage. She and her compatriot Crying Patsy Schroeder are both high on the list of those who worked to destroy our military.
Both are charter members of the anti military Hall of Shame.


Yes, I think that’s true for a lot of us.
And I don’t think many veterans intend to denigrate those who are currently serving, but intentionally or unintentionally, it happens a lot.

Again, I’m not necessarily referring to anyone on this board, it’s just a sore spot for me. Veterans can and should fight to reduce the nonsense that politicians heap upon our military, but we must always support our military rank & file. They’re the people getting the job done in spite of our nation’s civilian failures.


I will just say. I don’t look at my years of service, as sad times. I am proud of my service. But to put it in perspective from an “old” veterans POV. We were in an existential “Cold War” with the USSR, we served during a time when Islamic theocracies were waging wars in numerous Asian countries and other “police” actions. I wasn’t drafted (missed that by less than a decade), I volunteered.

Our service, was at times, where it was fashionable to hate the Armed Forces of the U.S.A by the American Public. So yeah, I personally, found your comment to be a bit off.

Not trying to start a fight with you. I do support current service members, not just by “tipping” my hat to them. Actual financial and charitable volunteerism, as well as political activism. My vote is predicated by my top 3 reasons. The care of our military, the preservation of the Constitution, and preservation of civilian 2nd amendment rights.

Anyways,information, from an “old Boomer” veteran POV.
Again not trying to start a fight with you.


Right, I’m not trying to start a fight with anyone, especially here. Like I said, I’m just a bit sensitive about this.

I don’t have a lot of tolerance for internet heroes who talk about how great they were back in the day, while implicitly or explicitly saying that the men & women serving today are somehow less worthy. I wish that weren’t really a thing, but the internet being what it is, there are plenty of them out there.

Of course, something I’ve noticed in real life (not the internet) is that if you press the self-proclaimed tough guys, they’re usually trying to compensate for a lack of actual military accomplishment. The biggest braggard at the American Legion bar will often turn out to be someone that did a couple of years as an E3 and never went anywhere. I’ve found that the folks with the most impressive service records tend to be pretty quiet about it.

This has just been my experience, but I’ve found it to be true more often than not.


Taking this to p.m

Did my comment

“I don’t know about you but the absolutely last thing I am worried about if I was in combat is inadvertently misgendering someone.”

Appear to be denigrating?

I’m curious.


As I said, this wasn’t specifically directed at anyone here.

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Sorry, that was meant to be a private message. Internet +1, me 0 :face_with_open_eyes_and_hand_over_mouth:


Zavier_D, You sound like you were in about the same time I was 78-02.


82 to 90

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I was an ARMY officer and was addressed as sir. More importantly, I grew up with Southern parents, and everyone was Sir, Ma’am or Miss. I see no reason to change my respect for male and female genders.


Unreal how much things have evolved since I served in the late 70’s


Before anyone has a heart attack over this story, can I please point out that nothing has changed.

If you read the story, this is just a recommendation made to USMC by the University of Pittsburgh. A college had a woke idea. Don’t lose your mind over that, it happens all the time. Neither the USMC nor any other branch has accepted this recommendation. It’s a click-bait headline- as one famous Marine would say, “Surprise, surprise, surprise!”