The House of Representatives–middle school for politicians.
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Ok just tired of whiney anti-gun dems, I know this is just the beginning. Is it true that it’s unconstitutional to stop them from entering? She has a right to carry there. is pelosi & the sgt of arms violating the law? If so it should be addressed. & I give boebert a lot of credit…
Language edited - one word removed. ~Moderators
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She beat out an incumbent. And she stood up to Beto at gathering Colorado. sounds like she is what we need.
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Better her than Hillary. Sometimes you aren’t always happy with the choices, so you go with the best one in the bunch. I figure for Colorado, she was a good way to go. Before the mess in DC is over, more of us might wish she was from our State.
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I’m not against Lauren Boebert one bit. I was rather stating that I think she should’ve probably had more time in local office. She went right to congress with no formal background in politics. I’m hoping the best for her.
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I’m good with that, but when no one any better stands up, what is to be done. I’m retired and have no desire to come out of retirement and into politics. I believe 99% of gun owners just want folks to follow the Constitution and be left alone. I was glad a pro-2A, conservative stood up to be counted.
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I’m pretty sure the people of that district did not send her to D.C. to meld in with the other swamp creatures, they sent her to tip over some tables, make some noise, and remind the people that occupy those “haloed halls” of Congress that they all took an oath to the U.S. Constitution and their constituents expect them to honor it. And besides, if we are to believe that they can’t be trusted with guns, how are we to trust them to serve our best interest?
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I live in CO and Lauren is my rep. I am closely connected to people on her campaign team. You don’t know what you’re talking about. She got to DC with the help of grassroots conservatives in her area. No support from the damn sewer dwelling, local GOP. I wouldn’t listen to or believe ANY of the media bs and propaganda, including fox propaganda.
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Ted Cruz, and the other seditionist politicians that knowingly pedaled the false claim that the election was fraudulant, which incited the insurrection, should be ousted. Guess I will not be a popular USCCA member on these chats. I am a well armed and trained moderate Democrat .Contrary to the belief of many conservatives, there are thousands of Dems/Libs that are well armed and trained with military and law enforcement back rounds who support the the Second Amendment. The difference is that we are not paranoid that some sensible controls on guns is a slippery slope to the One World Order United Nations black helicopters swooping in to confiscate all our guns. With all due respect, no person who refuses to accept the legitimate results of the election ( expressing the democratic will of the majority of the US citizens ) can rightfully call themselves a patriot. And those that agree with the insurrectionists that invaded our US Capitol can rightfully be called traitors by the true patriots of our land.
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Go read the Biden/ Harris page. They are after the guns. They want a state license to own a gun, limits on how many you can buy, no online sale of anything firearm related. You know, Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Revere. Those men were called seditious as well.
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For our amusement, please cite some of these. I believe the rebuttal to the non-sense is “shall not be infringed.”
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I will indeed check out the " Biden-Harris page. I personally oppose ideas/legislation that would go well beyond the landmark US Supreme Court holding in Heller which settled the question of an individuals rights to bear arms. But Scalia, who wrote the opinion, made it clear that some limitations are constitutional. With everything going on these days, we need to do better at least listening to different points of view. I have spent a lifetime involved in politics. Worked for campaigns. Come to know many Democratic politicians personally. Accept for a few crack pots ( they are on both sides), I have never heard any of them even remotely speak of doing away with the 2nd Amendment or otherwise eliminate substantial rights of gun ownership/self defense.
Which segways to the comment about our founding fathers being called seditious. Another difference with us gun owning Dems is that we do not see our current federal government as a tyrannical oppressor. I disagree with a lot of stuff the Democratic Party advocates. But that does not make them evil. Working thru these things is what politics and democracy is about. Our founding fathers fought against a King who imposed a monarchy upon us against our will. I am sure they are rolling over in their graves at the sight of a relatively small mob of citizens storming the Capitol because they disagree with the outcome of the constitutional process they put in place to select our leaders.
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Welcome to the Community, @Barry37! We know that firearms owners and self-defense advocates come from every walk of life and are glad to have them here!
There is a thread in here about the newly proposed legislation that you might find interesting: Here it comes! (Proposed gun legislation)
IMO, the majority of people are pretty middle of the road and are all doing their best to protect our rights. We differ on some topics, but the extremes on either side are the ones who are the loudest and drowning out the rest of us. 
~Dawn
I’ll remind everyone that we don’t all have to agree, but we’re all here to have productive conversations even on topics we don’t agree on. We can always learn from other viewpoints (plus the world would be pretty boring if we all agreed on everything all of the time).
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Thanks for this welcome and advice to all. I am in total agreement. And importantly, I do not view myself as espousing universal truths here. I always try to keep my mind open, and to having it changed if there is a more rational, logical position
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I absolutely agree with there are a few crackpots on both sides. The reason I do not trust the democratic party is because the leadership in the party has made it crystal clear on their intent with gun control. I also don’t trust politicians to step out of the party line and vote against what leadership is pushing. That goes for both parties.
I also agree that the founding fathers are rolling over in their graves. However the rally at the capital wasn’t because people didn’t “agree” with the results. It because they don’t trust the results. It could all be settled if their was a bipartisan investigation and release the results. President Trump had to run the gauntlet over Russian for years. Vice President Biden should run the gauntlet over this. If it was a fair election that will come out and be settled. There shouldn’t be anything to worry about.
As a disclaimer I used the title Vice President because he hasn’t been sworn in. I dont trust the results of the election so I will not address him as President-Elect. But he was the VP and I’ll give that it’s due respect.
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The problem is that 75 million voters don’t see the most recent election as a fair one. And, the other 80 million are against an investigation, to prove it was fair.
You mention Scalia. Yes, he did say “some” regulations. Like not allowing felons to own guns. Like, private citizens and businesses the right to not allow guns on their property. Those are indisputable. The problem comes from the “common sense” gun control. I’m in Illinois. I have to have a Firearm Owners ID to even own a gun. Any gun. I have to have that card to be in possession of ammunition. The state charges me money, for that card. That, is an unconstitutional poll tax. The government wants to tell me what guns I can own, based on the physical appearance of the gun. Mrs. Boebert is fighting against a system like this, at the federal level. SHE was elected, and sent to Washington by HER constituency to do just that. To say that makes her, or Ted Cruz, or Josh Hawley guilty of sedition is insane. Especially when for 4 years, anti-2A politicians have sought to limit the rights of gun owners, all while using the 1st Amendment to call for the “harass them while they eat dinner” mentality.
Yes, there were criminal actions committed on Jan 6. But, if we can hold one side accountable for that, then, why are we not holding the other side accountable for the actions that took place 6 months ago.
Furthermore, the actions of Jan 6th, show the absolute ignorance of why more gun laws are good. If that mob would have really been out for blood, the few capital police couldn’t have stopped them. Then, all the politicians would have been left with is their own self defense. Which Mrs Boebert is fighting to exercise her right to, as should every law abiding gun owner.
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Sorry, but it is this sort of obstinate, know it all, Fox News or worse bubble thinking nonsense that makes constructive dialog, and civic interactions, very difficult. Not worth responding to all this ranting.
But I think I good take away for all of us is that it is these kinds of extremists, on both the left and the right, that cause me to hold my firearms dear to protect against.
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Extremists - no matter what side of the aisle or background they have - can be the most disruptive and counterproductive to their own mission.
Out of curiosity (and please believe me, it is curiosity, not an attack of any sort – I say that due to the post before yours that was flagged), how do you feel about @45IPAC’s point:
Why should one gun be illegal when another that has the same functionality isn’t? For example, we already have to jump through numerous legal/background check hoops in any attempt to get a firearm that shoots more than one round when you pull the trigger.
This is a total opinion question, so no harm no foul here. I’m just curious so that I can understand differing viewpoints.
Thanks!
~Dawn
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Fox is the worst
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…for the moderator…Why not just change the word to donkeys? Really… The animal police … what did Jesus ride on? What’s the symbol of their party? Yeah sometimes simple things po me.
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