They are here

I agree with pretty much everything you said, Don. Except certain labels. I think you’re fooling yourself if you don’t think there are Christians, Satanist, Muslims, Buddhist’s, and many others involved with the communist/Marxist threat that hangs over America right now. James Forrestal, Joe McCarthy, and JFK all warned us decades ago of the imminent threat that has pervasively infiltrated our government on every level. During their time you did not see any Muslims serving in congress and yet that threat was still there just as it is today. I don’t believe personally this is a Muslim problem so much as it is a communist/Marxist one world government problem being pushed by China and very specific elitists who all have little tolerance for religion be it Christianity or Islam.

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We are talking about historically. If History began last week you might have a legitimate point. If I plant an Appleseed yesterday do you think it will sprout a tree today? For every action there is a reaction which is simple physics, and it often takes years, decades and sometimes centuries for those reactions to manifest. And that is reality no matter how much anyone wants to put things into a little box that is easily identified by their way of thinking.

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You using historically to attempt to state they - today - are the same as us - today. That is 100% false. Like what @Don102 stated, most might not be the violent jihadists that will seek our death, but they do agree or fear retribution from those that are. We have moved well past militant religosity. I know of no Christians that are using their religion to as a reason for violence to harm non-believers.

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Again, I agree Don. I don’t think you can compromise with extremist’s any more than you can label an entire group of people as extremists. Muslims running around screaming infidels must die and Jihad are extremist’s, so make no mistake about that.

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We will agree to disagree. How you can speak for most Muslims and what most Muslims want is a fallacy as you don’t know most Muslims and what they want. I doubt you even know most of your neighbors and what they want. Your arguments are riddled with assumptions, and I can’t debate with assumptions, no one can, only facts. You’re assuming you know what everyone wants whether they be Christian, Muslim or of any other religion. That is a very very dangerous and short sighted way of thinking my friend.

LOL I never stated that. So, you believe most Muslims do want to harm us? I stated they don’t. You can’t have it both ways. However, when you read the Bible and the New Testment, it isn’t about killing infidels. Read the Qur’an - totally different message. You stated everyone believes in morals, immorality, etc. I stated that is true, but our morals do not align with the morals of the Qur’an.

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I’ve read both on multiple occasions. I was raised in a military household and lived in many different countries. I spent 24years in the military and did three combat tours. One in Iraq and two in Afghanistan. I have met and known many Muslims, gone into Masjids and prayed with them, just as I have done in numerous churches around the world, as well as Temples worldwide in an attempt to get to actually know different peoples and their cultures. We had many Muslim allies in Afghanistan until the “Christian man” in the POTUS office pulled out and left them to die and be slaughtered while giving the extremist Muslims hundreds of billions of dollars’ worth of military equipment and weapons while at the same time destabilizing the region. So don’t tell me about how good and righteous “we” are while everyone else is bad. There are many gay Muslims and women who are oppressed by those same extremists some are attempting to bunch them with. We don’t have to go back hundreds of years to point out the corruption and wickedness our own government has done as we can look at our southern border and see the corruption going on there today. I don’t buy into labeling entire groups of people as good or bad as I have stated there is good and bad within all groups of people.

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If I misread and misquoted you, my apologies. No hard feelings, you are still a fellow American and my brother in arms even if we don’t see eye to eye on everything.

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You Brother are a good man. (No BS)
You have been ‘In it’ and I respect that.
No one especially me and Dave here have any different thoughts on this.
We have ‘variations’ of beliefs such as this. Dave and I don’t believe straight
down the line on EVERYTHNG, But we agree on the main topics and have Common Ground
I like what you say. I just can’t explain every detail ‘who’s bad, who’s good’ it’s complicated.
I state what I state as clear as I can but basically you and I agree.
It’s cool Bruh! :laughing:
America is a cool Country—We can agree to disagree and no harm no foul.
You can’t do that everywhere these days. I like it here, I want that Brotherhood/Sisterhood back
in this Country, I want Migrant—spelled IMMAGRANTS to continue to come here
THEY are US! But you HAVE TO DO IT LEGALLY. I’m not against anybody, Any color who
follows the RULES. If you steal you get locked up, If you Love this religion Love it! It’s your RIGHT
to do so. Just follow the rules and don’t stomp on mine.
My RIGHT to Keep and Bear Arms is not for anyone to debate. GOD GIVEN—nuff said.
You (anybody Brother not you specific) do what pleases you and let me do same same.
Simple sh** really. Golden Rule Amirite ‘Treat others as you wish to be treated’ right?

Where We Go 1 We Go All

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Well said! I agree 100%

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Good advice. Sorry about your wife. Thanks for the heads up. :cry::cry::cry:

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Immigration has increased the crime rate everywhere. Especially in Europe. The number of immigrants from Muslim countries defies logic but places like France, Germany, The Netherlands, and the UK continue to lay down the red carpet for these “people” who have no interest whatsoever to learn the customs and laws of their new homes. Instead, they trash the cities - literally - and accost the innocent. Uncontrolled immigration will be the downfall of Western society. I’m glad I don’t live in Minnesota.

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In general, I agree. Much of the crime in Europe is instigated by Muslims but that is because there is a predominantly large population of them in the cities. The reason for that is the Socialist/Marxist attitude of the governments who continue to let them all in much to the dismay of the local populace. In a more controlled environment I would guess that Muslims are like any other group of immigrants fleeing oppression in their country.

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Europe is f&$#d up by latest immigration… fortunately not all the Europe is lost… yet.

If you can spare 10 minutes of your time, I encourage you to watch this video to understand how Europe differ between Countries about Muslims and immigrants:

or… just 2 minutes in short explanation

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Yes… And that was all the OP was about until someone got their Walnuts caught in their zipper and injected their personal bias into the conversation. :roll_eyes:

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I have also not stated the former. I have not served and not been around the world nearly as much as you and others, but I travel more extensively than the majority of people, so I am well aware of differences in cultures and attitudes.

I did not state that.

Which is what I did state.

Which has zero to do with the point you were arguing about Muslims vs Christians, and neither is that a culture. You were attempting to twist my post into things I did not post, then argue those strawmen. That is a disingenuos way to debate.

Accepted. Same here.

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Thank you Brother,
She went HOME her way, on her terms, as she’s lived her entire life.
That’s all anybody could ask for down here on this Planet
Born
Raised right *w/ little damage
Find your purpose
Do good
Help people
Go home on your terms.

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Just image if Biden had that much strength of character and leadership. He would then be MAGA. :sunglasses:

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Gotcha covered.

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OH MAN! HEAVEN! Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm-goooooooooooood!
When it looks THAT good it tastes awesome and you can take that to the bank!

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