The following is an excerpt from a recent Associated Press article by Morgan Lee about the Alec Baldwin case. What are your thoughts on this paragraph?
“The new occupational safety report confirms that a large-caliber revolver was handed to Baldwin by an assistant director, David Halls, without consulting with on-set weapons specialists during or after the gun was loaded. Regulators note that Halls also served as safety coordinator and that he was present and witnessed two accidental discharges of rifles on set, and that he and other managers who knew of the misfires took no investigative, corrective or disciplinary action. Crew members expressed surprise and discomfort.”
Ever since this senseless killing occurred there have been lots of people saying the film industry has a complete safety protocol in place regarding the handling of firearms. It’s obvious that responsibility for safety was never accepted by the people making this film, since even the killer that fired the gun said openly that he was not responsible. The acronym for their safety protocol was FUBAR, and if Baldwin skates that will be a real crime.
Personally, if I was aware of 2 prior incidents with no follow up, I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t be trusting anything handed to me. Bunch of clowns in the no responsibility circus.
Heck, I don’t care if it was Hickok45 handing me a gun, or my kid or sister ( she has 35 firearms at last count) assuring me it was safe, I’d be verifying for myself.
If I was one of the producers, directors, prop/armorer or safety people on that film and heard about accidental shootings with live rounds on set I would have called for an immediate safety stand down until the problem was identified and removed. Seems like a lot of blame to go around on this one.
I think people who understand guns and gun responsibly need to teach people who don’t, about guns and I think people who don’t know about guns need to learn from responsible people who understand guns. It’s a win win situation.
Exactly. The producer is responsible for the success of the film, but the armorer is directly responsible for firearm safety. The armorer should have secured all the firearms and ammunition. If I were her, I wouldn’t let them out of my sight, and I would have refused to let any firearm be used on set until I was satisfied that the hijinks and shenenigans were over. She should have been fired long before the infamous incident. And the fact that she wasn’t fired makes me think the producer could potentially face some liability.
Agree that the armorer wasn’t doing her job. She seemed to be under qualified and was being asked to fill more than just the role of armorer which is likely why she wasn’t there for the catastrophic scene. I bet she was also under a lot of pressure to not hold up production. With limited experience and clout she was probably unwilling or unable to slow things down for safety sake. All that falls back on the producer and others in charge. Think there are a lot of responsible people here. Any one of them probably could have stopped the tragedy at multiple points in the chain of events.
That’s been my suspicion, as well. Still (STILL!) waiting on the investigation, but it seems like there were multiple points of failure that led to the death. I suppose that’s true in many tragic situations. I had a commander who used to say that anyone can make a mistake, but a true FUBAR requires a team effort.
I don’t know what the prosecutor will do, but I suspect the civil attorneys are going to have a lot of fun with this case.
All comes down to no consequences for the elite. Baldwin shot her. That is a fact. IMO
I know a Hollyweird insider who still swears that their “safety protocol” is perfect.
That is him with the mask on the set “blocking a shot”.
Huh, so the gun didn’t fire on its own? That’s wild. The only people who didn’t believe Baldwin were those people who knew anything about firearms. Everyone else totally believed him.
I thought the argument that he never put his finger in the trigger was stupid, anyway. It was along the lines of “I didn’t inhale” or “it depends on what your definition of ‘is’ is.”
But if you watch more than 2-3 movies in your life, you’ll probably see some really bad firearm practices, including actors walking around with their fingers on the trigger. I see it a lot. If I were Baldwin’s attorney, I would have told him to 1) shut up and stop talking to the press, and then 2) deflect blame to the people who were supposed to ensure the props were safe.
I agree with what you are saying,I was taught all my life to not pick up a weapon,and it i dis to keep the finger off the trigger and as always 1st is to ck the weapon to see if loaded and to not point the weapon even if it is unloaded at a person and if loaded in a confrontation to keep the finger off the trigger until you decide it is time to put the person down
Live ammo should have been NOWHERE NEAR THAT SET. PERIOD. Who brought it in?