The Current Definition of Racism

Here is the problem.

The topic started with the title The Current Definition of Racism. It highlights how we can no longer agree on what that term means. We could pose the same issue when it comes to love and hate. From whose perspective should we draw a conclusive definition of those terms?

I have no doubt that you would like to make a positive impact on the world for yourself and those around you, but you may have been given improper tools with which to do that with. How would you know the difference?

Are people hateful because they say things that hurt your feelings, or offend your sensibilities? Is it society’s job to remove obstacles for everyone else, even if they refuse to take advantage of that for their own betterment?

The tangents that could be explored from just this simple topic could fill many different topics with several pages of dialog and debate. The problem is, both sides are operating with only part of the information. There is a deeper level that needs to be explored and most people aren’t ready to hear about it. I think you are on that list, if you are being your honest and genuine self from these interactions.

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No. I don’t think people are hatful. They sometimes do hatful things.

No. It is not my responsibility to dictate what society should or shouldn’t do. I do feel it is my responsibility to remove obstacles for society’s betterment.

I am being my honest and genuine self. I feel I am ready to hear about it. Are you ready to tell me?
Edit: I don’t see a problem. I see a challenge. Problems are for pessimists.

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It’s not. This is how slaves are made.

The point of the statement is that I don’t think you are ready to hear it. History has shown there are hateful people. I don’t even like using the word, and I would never let someone bring me low enough to use it. In fact, many hateful people gave you a somewhat naive view of the world. You would probably not even believe me if I told you, nor would you dig deep enough to discover that I am correct.

To come back to the topic at hand, racism has always meant to think a race other than your own is inferior. You can compare that to being a supremacist and you would be correct in doing so. Every single race on this planet participates in it, and only one is chastised for it. You can take that to mean what you want, but it doesn’t make it any less true. The Nation of Islam, and the Black Hebrew Israelites are some of the most racist people on the planet. Guess which color they are not?

The only reason you redefine something is because you can no longer find instances of what it used to mean. Those of us that came up in the ‘80s and ‘90s already had this problem solved. Everyone else is just embarrassing themselves about this topic. There isn’t’ enough supply to meet the demand, so you get hoaxes.

Furthermore, the Middle class has shouldered the burden enough. If the inner cities were going to become better by forcing us at gunpoint to pay for people that feel they are entitled because of their skin color, yet chastise every other race for getting in their way despite most of it being their own ignorance, then it would have happened during the War on Poverty.

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Then amen.
That is my choice to make. If this is what it is like to be a slave I wil take all you got.

I never got to the racism part. I never got a past what he meant by Democratic Party. I don’t see how it is connected to racism. I don’t know what you are afraid to tell me. That is your choice to make. I don’t want to try and force you to do something you don’t want to tell me.
My whole issue is with blaming instead of discussing the issue.

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Sorry, no. I’m not sure if English is your first language. Removing obstacles for other people denies them their agency and access to upward mobility. Because, why would they ever make their own situation better when they can be co-dependent on you. Basically, you are making them your slave.

Every single act deemed as racist by this party, was perpetuated by this party. To the extent that they had to pretend the parties “switched sides,” in order to sell it to their ignorant followers. In the US, the Democratic Party voted unanimously against abolishing slavery, and the Civil Rights Act.

They created the War on Poverty which decimated the black community by divorcing black women from their households and replacing that marriage with the government.

Every single collectivist act that has led to the societal decline in the Western world (including the US) was perpetuated by democratic oligarchs manipulating the ignorant and gullible in society to monopolize the time and money of the productive members of society in order to create psychological and socioeconomic slaves of the ignorant masses that receive the stolen money and become voting cattle. There are only two perceived rights that are not under attack by these oligarchs. Voting and aborting children.

Whatever term you ascribe to the root collectivism is just to soften what it truly is. The enslavement of society by bully mob, and denying people their rights and consent.

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I forgive you. Yes English was my first language. I am not proud of it, I was never the sharpest tool in the shed. I do know what you mean, I don’t lord it over them.

Have to eat, to be continued, I hope.

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I was actually referring to what is called, “The Soft Bigotry of Low Expectations.” The concept that people will never improve their situation unless you help them. It doesn’t even need a racial qualifier. It’s a prominent method among people that have no concept of what people they deem lesser than them actually face or what could potentially be beneficial.

Well, they are humans. Access to resources and opportunity are helpful. In a lot of the inner cities people have friends, family, and even their community holding them back by chastising their desire to succeed, be well articulated, and smart.

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I know what you mean. The thing that gets to me is we are way off topic.

Not that far off topic at all,..

Actually I’d say the last comment was spot on.

Theres a reason i generally don’t reply to you.

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I don’t know what the topic is about. I asked a question to find out and never got an answer. I will ask again. What does he mean by Democratic Party? Is it one Democrat?All democrats in one state? It seems like a general turn used to describe ones hate so we can’t discuss the issue. All that happens is the hate keeps piling on. We don’t discuss the issue. I want to know what the issue is.

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No. I think the core of the topic was very well articulated. Racism and bigotry is more about how someone views and treats people not in their race or creed. But, if everyone is racist, then no one really is.

Regardless of the change in definition, the word has been used so much to describe people that the intellectually and logically immature could not win an argument against that it has lost its power.

Similarly with Nazi. The word is an illiterate shortening of the German words for the National Socialist German Worker’s Party. They famously hated fascists because they were not far enough evolved into collectivism and were still holding on to the capitalist economy. Hitler only used Musolini for troop placement and access. But, if everyone’s a Nazi, then no one is.

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:backhand_index_pointing_up:

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Yeah I now read what you wrote. It makes sense. It sounds like what I refer to and what was referred to me as big brother. I know nothing about it. I think it is a term used to frighten us. I never met anyone that was associated with it. I don’t know why it is attributed to democrats. They have know power over us.

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Because if they still taught civics you would have learned that democracy is not a good thing. If I can convince 99 of my friends that I really want to steal things from your house, then I would be allowed to do that under a democracy. Democrats try to water that down and pretend that is not their goal, but it is. They are the weaponized ignorant masses of the oligarchs. That is the intended purpose of democracy. To destabilize and dismantle a republic, and remove the concept of individual rights. All within the State, nothing without.

I also don’t know what the image you posted is about. I never claimed to be either, so I don’t know what emotion this is meant to provoke.

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It wasn’t aimed at you. It was aimed at people that label them selves and others as democrats and republicans. I don’t try to provoke anyone. It is meant to stimulate. It is getting late for me 7:09 PM. So I will stop. It has been fun. Without democracy how would we have our elected politicians? If that is what you mean or a democracy as a form of government?

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That’s definitely a topic all its own. As I already stated, the perceived right to vote is one of the few the govt actually protects. The rest they are actively trying to abolish. That’s worth really thinking about.

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This statement makes me believe that you operate under the presumption that people are basically good at their core and it is only outside pressures and circumstances which bends them to acting badly. So, the age-old “nature-vs-nurture” conundrum. I’m afraid that the human mind is more complicated than the presumption of good and that simple binary would suggest.

The second statement contradicts the first. By removing what YOU see as “obstacles” YOU are deciding what is good or bad for society, then acting to push society in the direction YOU think it should go, thereby making the decision as to what is good or bad for everyone else.

Throughout history (right up until today) there have been any number of leaders implementing programs to make society better. Some ended up adding a bit of wisdom and freedom to the world; others ultimately murdered millions upon millions of people. The common factor is that all of them believed they were doing good for the world.

“Problems” exist within the context of working towards an intended outcome, commonly called a “plan”. The “challenge” then becomes to avoid, overcome, or eliminate the problem so as to return the plan to its original course. In other words you do see problems, because without the problem there would be no way to identify or recognize the challenge. They are obverse sides of the same coin–one can’t exist without the other. You know
.. just like good and evil, hot and cold, light and dark, etc. etc..

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There really isn’t a distinction. Democracy is not a form of government. You have a Republic or an Oligarchy. Democracies exist to abolish Republics.

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So, if you vote republican, does that make you a republican? and if you vote for a democrat, does that make you a democrat? And if you vote for a president, does that make you a president? If you are a politician then you belong to a party, and the party pays you? As I see it, if you vote for someone or not and they become your representative and you pay them, whether or not that you voted for them or not. Then they tell you what you can and cannot do. Ahhhh freedom!

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Hurdles exist.
Just waking up. I find this very interesting and stimulating.

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