Continuing the discussion from Memes-all religion, all politics, all the time:
There you go, framing the question by race.
Just goes to prove that gullibility, failed educational systems, wishful thinking, and the preference of emotion over rationality isn’t constrained by race, ethnicity, or economic status. That kind of muddle-headed counter-factual thinking is available to everyone.
Did you ever think they don’t see them selves as the human race. Maybe they identify not by sex but the color of their skin.
I think the whole purpose behind it is to divide and stir the pot…
create opposition to the US within the US…
IMHO before the O there was very little of this kinda thing…
also thinkin some of these people in that chapter are doing the look how I am so… wonderful???
or whatever… the professor told them what to think!!! and like good students… ya right…
they get hammered with what to think in our educational system not taught how to think…
is an example needed perhaps??? well… here ya go… a community college in Richmond Calif.
saw something that looked like the start of this when I went to college there in the mid 70s’
the “professor” used choice of words, tones of voice etc… and always…
crowed about how wonderful red china was and everything he said was either pro communist or anti US…
even had a book created to support much of what he said…
and required we purchase and read it to pass…
thing is the book was full of lies and distortions… many student did not catch this…
after all it’s a book that is supposed to educate you right? trust in the education system…
misplaced trust??? our parents backed the schools when we were growing up and attending said schools
they would never present us with a book of lies and distortions???
gave us a lecture about a US congress person telling everyone how he did not even know a certain government agency existed…
he kept saying how our gov was so typically stupid etc etc because they didn’t know about this agency…
turns out a few months later… the agency did NOT actually exist…
it was part of the newer form of communist disinformation/misinformation
we got into it… he and I… told him what I saw over there…
did so in front of the class… know what he did… standard communist/socialist technique…
he could NOT refute my words… so… REMOVE the problem kinda thing so he could continue…
ask me to step out of the classroom with him and…
told me he thought I would get nothing from his class and promised a solid “C” grade if I would NOT come to class…
as it is said a lie gets half way around the world before the truth gets it’s pants on…
and he helped the lies all he could.
Where to begin…
A) Identifying by sex wasn’t mentioned at all, so irrelevant to this conversation.
B) Not seeing themselves as the human race? Perhaps you mean to say that the members of certain racial groups feel as though their obvious humanity is being denied by others, rather than that they themselves don’t believe in their own humanity.
C) My meaning was to point out that using race as a primary identifying factor simply perpetuates racial division. All aspects of human behavior-- good or bad, productive or destructive, accepting or exclusionary-- exist in all humans without regard to race, ethnicity, or culture. Each person should be judged, if they are to be judged at all, based upon their individual merits and behaviors rather than on some mythical racial traits.
Take the words “white” or “whiteness” out of these titles and substitute any other race, creed, or ethnicity. Then find someplace to hide and watch the rage flare up.
To be less emotional about it, take out the whiteness and examine the underlying behaviors and practices and institutions. Then try really hard (and fail) to show that these attitudes aren’t present and active in other races, cultures, ethnicities, and creeds. The fundamental problems have more to do with human-ness than whiteness.
I made a comment recently to an apparently former friend about leaving a patriot in Russia while getting a black druggie basketball player instead. He took great offense to my noting her blackness. But…she’s black, right? Facts are really killing people, especially the ones who use color when it is convenient for their narrative. Scary times.
This👍. @David38 & @OldDude49 you word it much better than I could. I only through the sex part in because I hear so much about sexual identity now a days and people need to identify as something other than human. I know the Bible says we should identify as man and woman and I think it is so we don’t identify as children. That is another discussion.
Pretty much framing by the Truth… How many people know or realize this has taken place?
BS!!!
His blackness. The person you are speaking of is a freaking dude.
I think only in America. I think a lot has to do with the tone of one’s voice when one says it. I think the problem on line is, one can’t tell the tone of someone’s voice especially when we are not speaking 
God only made one race; the human race. I do not believe the Bible has any mention of the word ‘race’ throughout the OT or NT. That is a man made construction. We are all made in God’s image, and He did not add or subtract from that image.
Pretty much framing by the Truth… How many people know or realize this has taken place?
So David didn’t OLDMAN, OLD DUDE, or whatever his name is pull BLM (Black Lives Matter) up, and insist that they burned down entire neighborhoods? Where was your cry about framing by race then? Man some of you need to see that you aren’t not the only group in a chat forum. Some of you are willing to say almost anything it seems.
Have a great Day!!
We agree to disagree…
Then tell us how you would frame the question. By talking about BLM you are talking about a person’s race.
I also said I was aware of the BLM having MANY different races involved I did not say BLACK people did it!
I said BLM did it! SEEMS like someone decided I was accusing blacks…
saw way to many other color faces on film/video to consider BLM just blacks
now do you understand or are you still gonna insist???
OK we disagree… IMHO BLM is more of a con and probably full of anti-american people…
saw where one of the founders TOOK the a lot of that donated money and bought several expensive homes…
for themself!
not so sure that is correct… yes BLM means black lives matter…
but I sure saw a lot of NOT black faces involved with what they were doing… so???
the subject of this thread is all about that IIRC???
also the people that kid shot were NOT black IIRC??? weren’t they involved with BLM???
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Pretty much framing by the Truth… How many people know or realize this has taken place?
So David didn’t OLDMAN, OLD DUDE, or whatever his name is pull BLM (Black Lives Matter) up, and insist that they burned down entire neighborhoods? Where was your cry about framing by race then? Man some of you need to see that you aren’t not the only group in a chat forum. Some of you are willing to say almost anything it seems.
Have a great Day!!
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So David didn’t OLDMAN, OLD DUDE, or whatever his name is pull BLM (Black Lives Matter) up, and insist that they burned down entire neighborhoods? Where was your cry about framing by race then?
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What “Truth” are you claiming to use as your frame? What, specifically, are you wondering if people realize has happened?
I would say that the framing in this case is by the name of the organization, not by race. And aren’t you the one who seems to be saying that BLM is not strictly a racially based organization because there are white chapters? Isn’t it a sign of respect to call someone by the name they have chosen for themselves?
The summer of riots, in which the self-styled group “BLM” participated, maybe didn’t literally “burn down entire neighborhoods” but it certainly resulted in the destruction of neighborhoods. I can’t accept any justification for the arson, looting, and wanton destruction that took place during those riots, not matter what the race/gender/ethnicity/politics of the perpetrators.
