Likewise, I make sure I have access even with seat belt on with a IWB at 3 oclock.
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Off body. In case your pulled over by the police, its better not to have the gun on your person.
Letting an officer know your armed and where the gun is, not on you, it may be better since your keeping both hands in sight, right folks.
Now in case you happen to run across some road ragging fool who pulls along side with a gun, id rather brake reach out and grab rather than fondling at my side, around the deterring seat belt or jammed against holster and beer fatā¦L0L, I dont have any. Out is better for quick reach in any vehicle situation. Just my opinion nowā¦oh, please donāt leave your firearm in an unlocked vehicle or out unattended by you. Be safe!
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I got pulled over (due in part to being ālostā) and I had my retired army ID, Drivers Lic, and Concealed Carry Permit out.
When He came up to my window, I handed them to him and told him I had a licensed carry pistol on me.
He said āwhere is it?ā
I said Iām wearing it at 3 oclock in my In the Waistband Holster.
He said āthats fine, just leave it thereā and then he told me I had made an abrupt turn back there. I said āyes sir, Iām not familiar with this part of town (Peoria, AZ) and I was looking for pleasant lake parkway, I screwed up and should have went on by and turned aroundā
He then called in my license, told me ādrive safely and thanks for your serviceā
No ticket, No speech, No āwarningā.
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10-4. Just keep in mind that all stop situations for everyone are not good stop situations for the police or motorist and misunderstandings DO happen. Some are very unfortunate for either.
Be safe.
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These seem kind of at odds with one another IMO.
If out in the vehicle is quicker to reach and use, why is having it quicker to reach and use better if you are pulled over?
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I use these Iām my vehicles. They do require mounting but they are a quick grab if thereās a need and upon exiting, I just grab it and and holster it on my person. Trying to have my handgun on myself while carrying is uncomfortable and hard to reach.
Also for safety, I typically keep the chamber empty while mounted in the vehicle. These mount holders, you can rack the slide and retrieve the firearm at the same time.
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That is one of my primary concerns with the various off body car carry methods that donāt include a cover for the trigger. I think the chances of accidentally touching the trigger while grabbing the handgun in a stressful situation are significantly greater than 0.
But I also donāt want to worry about having to take the time to properly rack the slide under the stress of an attack. If I was to use one of the magnet style holders I would also use a trigger guard set up to pull off automatically after I grab the pistol. Like one of these:
Though I prefer to on body carry whenever possible. This way if I need to exit the vehicle in a hurry for some reason I donāt have to worry about taking extra time to retrieve my firearm. I also donāt have to worry about an LEO seeing the firearm and going on high alert before I can tell them that I am a licensed carrier with a concealed firearm.
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You make a fine point about having to leave the vehicle. I suppose thereās no perfect solution. Being in Utah, LEOs are aware that a high percentage of people carry so they generally are on alert in every situation. But Iāve seen that here, they are on alert, but are (depending on who they perceive they are dealing with) more understanding if you make them aware you have a firearm. Criminals generally donāt inform them. Iām sure itās different in every jurisdiction.
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You dont want to reach or use if a cop pulls you over.
That would make you a threat to the cop, right. Do Not Do That!
We are talking about in case your attacked while in your vehicle by a criminal or attacker only.
Please take the time and read before you respond.
Or maybe Im the one missing the point, ofw.
Be safe and respect your law enforcement officers.
Safety for all, right.
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I am asking about the above. It seems like the two points oppose one another.
You say off body is better in case of being pulled over because itās better to not have it on your person, but then you say out (not on body) is better for defense because itās faster to get to.
If out is faster to get to, why is that better if you get pulled over?
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Iām more worried about being safe. I donāt want someone who has Qualified Immunity to see, or think of me as a possible threat. So, I maintain 2 hands on the visor until I can let them know that I have a lawfully possessed firearm. For anyone who wants to carry on about cold dead fingers, or right to privacy. Feel free to comment elsewhere. I live in a world of practicality. Polite and careful keeps me out of trouble 9 out of 10 times. Most likely that other part of the time, the LEO probably had his mind made up before he ever got to my car. I see no need to throw in a surprise firearm to add to the drama
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Strong vote for on body here.
Iām not worried about being pulled over. Iām worried about carjackers and gas stations. In both cases, the last thing you want is to be outside your car, needing your gun, which is still inside your car. Iāve seen too many reports of carjackers shooting the victim as they drive away in their car, even though the victim complied.
Find a holster for driving that allows easy access to your gun. For me, I use a fobus OWB. It prints a bit, but if Iām taking a long drive, Iāll dress to hide the printing. The hard shell holster, at 3:00, wonāt compress with the pressure of the seatbelt. After I buckle in, I arrange my shirt so the grip of my pistol is exposed for a quick draw if I need it.
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Cool. But if you get out of your car,I say dont leave your handgun behind. Of course. Then the carjacker would get your car and your gun. We are talking about while your still sitting inside the car.
Ultimately its a your choice no right or wrong whats best for you situation point here.
Be safe.
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Its the same point. Having your gun sitting somewhere in reach rather than tucked in your belt or holster is better in my view. Again, you can reach and aim quicker in case of an attacker. And should you get pulled over in case of a traffic stop. You dont dare want to reach for a holstered gun should the officer seek to see its exact whereabouts. In both cases its better to be tucked in a reachable visible to you place, a compartment of car cubby. Thats all.
Just an opinion, thats all. Be safe
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Before I pull in somewhere, I always look around to see if anyone pings my situational awareness and put my gun back in its holster before I get out of the car.
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Definitely donāt reach for any gun, holstered or not. I just didnāt (and still donāt) understand why more accessible and quicker to reach is better when pulled over, but in either case I donāt see any issue anyway provided you handle it reasonably, as there is no reason to reach for it either way
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That is great for when you are not getting out of your car until after you planned to get out and everything went according to plan and you had time to discretely move it to your holster without anybody being any wiser
Which is usually the case.
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My body and vehicle, I have to wiggle around a lot to draw from 3:00 with the seatbelt on.
I found that out the hard way with a recent road rager!
While I was able to drive away without incident and never had to fully draw my weapon, just making sure it was clear of the seatbelt and effectively at low ready if things went further south than they already were was a complete PITA!
I have to leave my gun in my truck while Iām at work, (have a console vault safe). Drawing once I get to work to put it in the safe discreetly isnāt a problem once I take the seatbelt off.
However, putting it back on body discreetly is MUCH harder! So typically for my drive home itās off body riding in the cup holder ( not ideal I know). But for the moment, I havenāt found a good method to secure it somewhere better.
My older truck I had a universal holster under the steering column, but it wonāt work on my new truck without physically damaging the dash or column.
Open to suggestions for a 19 Tacoma! 
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I think this is an extremely important point made by SkippySanchez, I agree completely. Couple that with the points made earlier regarding having to exit the car in an emergency and not needing to access from a remote location - this is a no-brainer for me.
That being said, I totally understand that some people may have difficulty with certain on-body holstering positions in the sitting position depending on body type, physical handicaps and other factors. Absent those complications I have a hard time imagining a firearm holstered on the body while strapped in being that much of an issue for the rest of us.
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My ride has pretty good cubbies that hold mines in place and doesnāt allow it to fall or flop around, good for me right, I know.
Exiting and strap up is hard because in todayās society, who wants to go in the store behind or before you after seeing you shoving a gun down in ya paints, not me too risky.
Just toss some ideas around on how to mount your firearm comfortably in your truck. We men always come up with sumthin right! Be safe.
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