Again, you have ignored my post with links to studies, nor have done your own research. Therefore, you are unwilling to open your mind and learn, just doubling down on your beliefs. Why are you not providing links to studies that prove the claims you are refuting are wrong? hmmm…
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Bro, you post something saying this fact checking website says a claim isn’t real. Then I’m like, who are the fact checkers. Insinuating that your alleged fact checking website might be biased or out right employed by pharma. Your response is unfortunately there are usually no fact checkers but you posted something saying a fact checking website said something was false! Huh! Man, the destruction of common sense is in full effect. Sometimes, possibly all of the time, it’s easier to fool a man than it is to convince a man he’s been fooled. I love you brother, for real! Survival of the fittest is real science and I think we’re witnessing it in real time. I mean no disrespect at all I’m just so surprised at all of this. Did you watch that hearing I posted? I just wouldn’t get any “boosters” if I were in that position to get them.
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As usual I’m a bit late on jumping in. So I’ll give MY opinion.
- Do what you feel is right for you. Trust the governments suggestion and take the shot(s). I’m good with you doing that. Most of my neighbors and friends did. That’s ok for you or maybe a requirement for your job.
- The VAERS vaccine adverse effect reporting system wasn’t used properly. My fact check: Friends and family in the Health Care System.
- No, I didn’t take the vaccine. Not for me. I fit the criteria , over 65. Yep, I caught COVID. It sucked worse than any flu I’ve had. I probably would have sold my soul to feel better. Lost 14 lbs on that COVID diet. Rode it out for nearly 2 weeks.
- I don’t trust the news or internet fact checkers. Just my opinion and observations. I’ve seen too many stats change.
- I’m not a big fan of trusting many people or the government. Tuskegee syphilis trials, Gulf War syndrome, NY WTC 2001, the air quality is safe. I’ll tell my dead friends that.
- So this ends my interaction with this discussion. You do you, and I’ll do me. Hopefully that leads us to a happy interaction. Most importantly, Stay Safe, and May Everyone Have a Blessed and Safe Holiday🎄
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I was there too
I am currently in a battle right now to VA to help me. got diagnosed with it in 2014 by the VA. honestly I think it was the F%cked up shots and the N.A.P. pills that they made us take
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I got all of the Pfizer boosters and I have never had a blood clot. But I pray for those who do get them.
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Wondering if you know anyone who experienced abnormal responses?
yes I do know several people who have had a abnormal response. one that has died due to clots and a heart attack. the funny thing was he a veteran who was very active in things like, snow skiing running played several sports. an he was very fit
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Anecdote: All but one of my adult family/extended family got vaccinated, most neighbors, most friends, some coworkers, all of my wife’s coworkers, etc, no adverse reactions or conditions that I am aware of. My sister did have a coworker who was in a higher risk category skip the vaccine, catch covid, and die
The posted article that started this thread made the following claim:
“Pfizer’s COVID vaccine has been linked to blood clotting in older individuals, according to a study conducted by the FDA. The study, which analyzed data from 17.4 million elderly Americans who received the vaccine between December 2020 and January 2022, found that pulmonary embolism, or blood clotting in the lungs, met the initial threshold for a statistical signal and continued meeting the criteria after a more in-depth evaluation.”
Where is that study? A study of 17.4 million elderly done by the FDA should be somewhere on its website. A study of 17.4 million elderly Americans that finds " pulmonary embolism, or blood clotting in the lungs, met the initial threshold for a statistical signal" should be front page news on the FDA website. I can’t find any such study.
Now, who were the fact checkers of that claim? Probably nobody, 'cause it’s just another lurid claim designed to attract eyeballs.
I posted an article from Politifact that refuted the claim that there was an FDA study of 17.4 million Americans showing “pulmonary embolism, or blood clotting in the lungs, met the initial threshold for a statistical signal.” Certainly, people believe what they want to believe and can question the article from Politifact or the motivation of the Politifact authors, but where’s the study? Let me repeat, where is the study that the article claims exists?
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Yes, for hundreth time, we have read your posts that “Politifact” claims it is not true. Have you any links to studies that refute that claim? You seem to hinge your argument against the claim on there being no links to a study to support the claim. You have not provided any links to studies to refute that claim. So your post is heresay, too, based on your standard.
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I get what he is saying. The article says “this study exists and here is what it says”. But, does that study exist? And if so, can we see it?
It’s a fair question/request IMO
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This is another story on the findings, with a link to the FDA study:
Here is another story with the same information and link to the FDA study:
Here is a link to to pdf of that study:
See how easy it is, if you really wanted to know?
[Edit] I personally don’t care, but I hate people b-tching about no links when we are all posting on the internet that provides the ability to search for data for oneself. If @Mark697 really wanted the truth, he could have done the same as me.
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I’m 86, healthy as a horse (except for wrinkled muscles) and never had a Covid vaccine.
I’m suspicious ANY time the government mandates something. They’re now pushing booster #5. If the first four worked, why is booster necessary. Seems like common sense to me. Same o, same o for Ivermectin. Very successful med for decades and govt says it’s forbidden because it is across the counter med and pharma co’s don’t get rich off of it. Use your head, folks.
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my wife and I got covid last year. after her mom got it and she had the shot. for my wife and I it was just a really bad flu, our daughter who is a nurse brought us a whole bunch of vitamins and other over the counter meds. felt like 
but we got over it within a couple of weeks.
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The reason there is similar to why we get the common cold, or flu, over and over again throughout our lives, and why there is a different flu shot each year. Viruses mutate. Also simply waning of immunity over time, like why your tetanus shot isn’t good for life
Couldn’t afford to lose the job but could afford to lose your LIFE???
SMGDMFH!
Sheep is as sheep does!!!
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When I got the shots, not a lot of the problems with the vaccine were known as they are now. As the only one in my family that works, maintaining an income was a definite factor.
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And where is the FDA study referenced by the original article? Can you provide me a link to it since you disagree with the Politifact refutation?
Where is that definitive FDA study of 17.4 million elderly Americans so that we can examine it ourselves rather than rely on hearsay reports about it, if it exists at all.
Maintaining an income should NOT have been a factor. This is clearly coercion and a COMPLETE violation of the Nuremberg Code. I totally understand someone making that decision but was blessed not to have to. In fact, all ten of the Nuremberg Codes were violated in the name of safety. “A man willing to give up liberties for safety deserves neither.” Not my words. The Nuremberg Code has a penalty of death. Obviously, the Nuremberg Code is less a law and more of a warning bell for free people. Tyrants naturally make their own rules and ignore any that conflict with their ideals. Eventually making their ideology law. It’s one thing to get the jab because you’re afraid of a virus and was tricked into thinking it would help. It’s a whole other level when your income becomes dependent on it. That should have never happened.
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Thanks for providing links to the study cited in the article. The article’s conclusions are inconsistent with the FDA study, which was this:
"Our early warning safety system is the first to identify-four new statistical signals for modestly elevated risks (RR less than 2) of four serious outcomes of AMI, PE, DIC, and ITP following BNT162b2 vaccination. This FDA and CMS COVID-19 vaccine safety study is one of the largest studies of elderly persons aged 65 years and above including approximately 34 million doses administered to more than 17 million Medicare insured persons. Our surveillance monitoring did not detect statistical signals for the mRNA-1273and Ad26 COV2.S vaccines for any of the 14 monitored outcomes.
The statistical signals of four serious outcomes are not necessarily causal and may be due to factors potentially unrelated to vaccination. Additional analyses indicated that the potential association was less than twice the historical rates and may be associated with factors not accounted for in the near real-time surveillance methods."
Note the quote from the study in bold.
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