clot shot victim again

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Why I will not fly anymore

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same thing here

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Have you noticed…he died before his commercial flight. :wink:

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I have a hard time telling if someone died from covid vs dying with covid and if they did from a shot vs with a shot.

Every time this topic comes up it seems like every person or source that speaks out about it has a baseline assumption that goes one way on one of those and the other way on the other.

Really hard to figure out what’s what

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I agree with you but, they all have one thing in common. large clots and heart attacks

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There are around 800,000 heart attacks in the US each year.

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Did you read the entire article? He was “the Pilot”, if the poor guy had to die, better before than during the flight. Could have been a mass casualty event. The article is pointing out a serious problem with lowering physical standards. Article says he had been suffering from poor health in previous months. Should not have been cleared to fly. 2nd such episode in a month for that airline.

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This topic is rather interesting. The fact it’s from a dedicated Trump source, definitely shows the inherent bias.

It’s been interesting over the last two years that suddenly young and healthy individuals are dying. That doesn’t seem to be the case with this pilot but there have been so many cases of young people, especially athletes, dying for no explained reason. The timing of the vaccine is perhaps coincidental and prior to the vax maybe this was happening but just not widely reported on. What makes it difficult is that we now know that Pfizer and the government made claims about the vax that were never clinically trialed, so they flat out lied to the American public. Notice how the Pfizer interview with the European Union never really made American news, save but a couple 40-second YT and TicTok clips? When you combine the coincidence of these incidents, with the lies we know, the lack of visibility into these deaths, and the reluctance to really dig into the source of COVID just helps drive these fears and concerns.

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No more flying for me since this forced jab thing started.

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ok so putting the article from a biased source wasn’t the best idea. but, I read about the same thing in another article.
it is still undisputable that perfectly healthy young people are suddenly having large clots or sudden heart issues. the one thing that a lot of them have in common. are getting a c-19 shot.
You are right when you said **

“the coincidence of these incidents, with the lies we know,”

** and not being able to trust the government

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same thing here, that is why I am planning on driving to the disabled veterans winter sports clinic in Snowmass Colorado next week. yes its a PITA to have to drive 2 days there and 2 days back. but, I’m looking forward to getting out on the road for 1st time since I’ve been able to drive it.

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That’s why commercial flights have co-pilots. And modern planes practically fly themselves, anyway. This would not have been a mass casualty event, there’s no need for us to be dramatic. The pilot could have flushed himself down the toilet mid-flight and the passengers would have been fine.

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Yeah and the airline industry is trying to get rid of co-pilots because of a strange shortage of pilots just like they got the government to relax the physical requirements.

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Hello and welcome @JulieTX22

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Is this because you are worried that the pilot and copilot will both have sudden heart attacks during your fight and the plane will crash?
(or something like that)

From a safety and security perspective, making the smart decisions to keep you safe perspective, I would like to suggest that flying is objectively and demonstrably safer than driving would be. And if you are worried about other people having a sudden issue for whatever reason, there are a lot of other people out there driving on the road to worry about too. Plus they text and distracted and DUI too…plane is safer.

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Out of curiosity, are there any numbers and statistics on this? Undisputable is a strong statement, I would think there would be verifiable hard data behind something that cannot even be disputed

I’d be very interested in seeing some unbiased reporting and studies on the rate of significant clot and heart events among young healthy people pre and post Covid and pre and post vaccine.

Based on personal experience amongst my social group I suspect that the vaccine has caused an increase in these events. But I remember occasionally reading about these events pre Covid. How much of the increase in stories is based on an increase in events vs the news media focusing on them more due to the current interest for profit or political purposes?

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It doesn’t matter how he died, when he died. There are always 2 pilots on the board… unless you fly cheap airlines. :person_shrugging:

In this case we are talking about British Airways… meaning his death is only the tragic episode for him, his family and friends. There was never a danger to the plane nor passengers.

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Agreed. Unfortunately, I don’t believe we’ll see any unbiased reports. If such a thing existed, the big news companies would ignore it as they pander to their customer bases.

You are correct that these types of events happened before COVID. I was surprised to learn that. Specifically, I was looking into the fútbol players falling over dead in the middle of a game. Turns out that’s always been a thing; I had no idea.

On the flip side, the FDA has acknowledged that there are issues with clotting, but they don’t have enough data to draw objective conclusions. With the amount of money we’re talking about when it comes to COVID vaccines, I can’t blame anyone for being skeptical.

That said, I really don’t like it when someone dies and the political class lays blame before the corpse has even cooled. These threads are not helpful.

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