Absolutely. We are in a political fight to keep our 2A rights. The system is what the system is. Like it or not, big money and organizations come against us. If we don’t compete on their level we are lost. I am not legally adept enough to explain why but I believe the division between “USCCA” and “USCCA for Saving Lives” must be distinct. I plan to support “USCCA for Saving Lives”.
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Fill that nra void! Do what they didn’t… take thousands of women who defended themselves with a gun and march them through the halls of Congress!
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Our mission hasn’t changed, @Chris3. USCCA’s mission is to help Americans avoid danger, save lives and keep their families safe.
We do have new apparel and swag in response to member requests. And there is still the same (or more) content in the Concealed Carry Magazine (I double checked that with our team here 
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Quite often I contact them
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The USCCA should do as much as it possibly can to influence the wacko Democrats NOT TO ENACT RESTRICTIONS AGAINST OUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS. There are other areas that also need influence, including state government regulations. I say again, the USCCA should do as much as possible!
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Got the E-mail and signed up with a donation. Let’s see where this goes!
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Did yesterday as well. My over/under for the next donation request is 17days given WinRed’s fund raising reputation.
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Marking Email as spam is one of my specialties!
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The USCCA along with any legal gun owner and any company or organization remotely associated with the 2A is ALREADY a target of the left. Moreover, if legal gun owners and 2A supporters do not engage in political advocacy at every opportunity, politicians on the right will surrender to the left in the name of compromise. We have seen it happen time and again. No more. Further, anyone who opposes using the political process to protect our rights is not serious about protecting themselves or families and is probably elevating their own leftist politics above protecting their families.
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Appreciate your point Fizbin. Which was why I chose to be a USCCA customer initially, and proud to be a member. I believe before USCCA formed a PAC, they were already doing a lot for the 2A community, and by not having a PAC - it actually strengthened their uniqueness.
I can see how if I were in court, I would not want to be affiliated with any single Political Action Committee. It’s a reality that if there are jurors, a judge, and attorneys involved, how I can be perceived. As their decision could be clouded by politics and social views, instead of focusing on safety and self defense. I’m unashamed to be a member of a few 2A organizations, and not sure if the NRA sells liability insurance, but if they did, I would not buy theirs (no disrespect to them).
In court, I’d want to dress up nicely and look my best. Outside of court, I think there’s some equal correlation, IMHO.
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I received the email as well but when I first started going to the link, it was flagged as suspicious by my AV client. I did write them with the information to let them know. Eventually if stopped being flagged as suspicious. I guess they should have done a better job of rolling this out. I have been a member of the USCCA for 10 years and this is the first time I have seen this. PAC’s can help in this area and we have a lot of work to do to protect our 2nd amendment.
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Burdo’s and Fizbin’s comments made good reasoning earlier on this topic as to why USCCA should not formalize stances in today’s anti-constitution and anti-bill of rights push by officials within our government.
A couple of thoughts come to mind here. One, is that the USCAA may serve their customers better by just recommending other organizations worth supporting. And two, the timing of this startup and the bankruptcy of the NRA raises some questions. Sadly, I believe we need advocates to fight for the 2nd and our rights against the powers that be who want to take them away after 245 years.
Also, sad to see and hear how the NRA has turned out over the last several years.
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Great comment, I totally agree. The NRA’s conduct and recent bankruptcy has not helped the cause. Like you said, judges, jurors, and attorneys are being clouded more than following the constitution and amendments.
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Mr. Plastic makes a good point. I would add that actions do speak louder than words.
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Good point. I read earlier that this alliance could possibly present problems for members, should they ever need to use the insurance for which we all joined here for.
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It has no effect on insurance. Those criticizing this lobbying effort are simply trying to subvert the mission of the USCCA.
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The effect we were speaking of is in court when using your insurance and affiliation. No one is trying to subvert lobbying efforts and their connections, only raising a concern as members of USCCA.
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You would have a great point if things were even as sane as they were in 2015. However, we live in a brave new world now in which just having a gun legally and using it legally for defense is politically damning in court whether by the court itself or the media that the court likely won’t buffer.
The enemies of freedom and decency have made the personal political.
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Another hot button issue!!
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I think this is generally healthy conversation, as the topic of a mission of an organization is important, affects us all, and there will be different views, naturally.
The USCCA has already come out with their PAC. I may not be able to do anything about it. Although I would have preferred they not; It’s already done. There are already some other pro-2A PAC’s in existence.
Just a question or theory on my part, but I had wondered if in the past several years, if the USCCA and the NRA had deliberately separated themselves from each other, so as not to taint the USCCA, as they had some differences in their mission.
That aside, I do think the USCCA will conduct themselves whereby I’d be proud of them, meaning they’d display tact, civility, and be perceived in a way that some of those on the fence on firearm rights, might listen to what the USCCA has to say.
However, despite my being a member of the other 2A groups, I can’t say the same about some of the others. The way they come off to mainstream, can be off-putting. Some say that is needed, because those against 2A have their own radicalness per se, however, it just never sat well with me that coming off like that was necessary – but hurts our cause. Just IMHO.
Of course, the courtroom can be “uneven” ground, that they can be influenced by the media, and even by the region they live in, and regrettably I especially live with that fear that they can misjudge me. That’s like “the elephant in the room” per se.
As far as bringing in politics into the court room, thinking that “It’s already there anyway, so might as well embrace it and bring it on”, to me is not the strategy I’d want my attorney to use. However, if my life and livelihood are on the line, “that” – I won’t accept or stand for it court, because if I ever have to ‘defend myself’, that’s what it really was about.
When my life, family, and finances depend on it; Just too much on the line, to me. And if my attorney does not respect my beliefs, then I have the wrong attorney on my side. Guess it’s a personal choice.
Once when I was in court, on a non-firearm related matter. The opposing attorney tried to bring in politics when examining me while I was on the witness stand. But that is not me. My role was not that of attorney, my role was “being me”, and I could not help but be myself, and was surprised that I quickly put a stop to that attorney’s attempt to bring in negative politics. In the end, it worked in my favor, and the outcome was very good for the person who was the actual victim of the crime.
This is in no way is advice, just my own personal views, and I can respect others’ good & valid points indeed.
George, how on earth did you find that timely gem?; As usual, you’re the voice of reason.
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