I’ve been spanked by @Dawn a few times and now I’m on my best behavior!
Found that gem a few weeks ago when a thread was taken down due to over zealous exchanges.
It was a good topic, it just got out of hand.
@USCCA is in a tough spot on this one IMO. They have stated their position by their action. I don’t want to see this discussion shut down because, we need to have it.
I for one believe they are headed in the right direction others don’t.
Let’s play nice!
Gratitude George. Great topic. I guess the “mission” part resonates across the board. Peace. 
@Bill50 @moderators Thank you for posting this here and thank you to the moderators for answering so quickly.
Yes - WINRED is used exclusively for Republican fundraising / platforms.
Where have you read this, @Martin_A? I’d love to read it and share it with the team here at our headquarters.
Politics can get burdensome but vigilance is the price for Liberty as evil always crouches at the door and seeks a foothold on the weary …
Good, for those seeking to maintain Liberty through vigilance
From the bottom of the www.winred.com website home page.
Also, seems to be set up by Kevin McCarthy for Kevin McCarthy.
I would hope USCCA would take a more bi-partisan approach in its efforts/fight towards its goals pertaining to the 2A (and maybe they are, I’m not entirely sure yet)…Whether support is given from both sides or not, at least the door of inclusion is left open.
This is NOT a one sided fight to maintain our rights, it is an AMERICAN fight. I have plenty of friends on both sides of the fence and let me just say, when it comes to the 2A, it’s hard to tell em’ apart.
A common ground does still exist amidst the chaos.
Appreciate that Ben, I missed that earlier.
When I had received the email from USCCA asking if I would donate to the new PAC, despite my misgivings, hesitancy on political affiliations and bringing that with me into the courtroom (God forbid), I attempted to donate like the email asked.
However, when I did, it required my employer’s name and my occupation. I preferred not to share that, so I ended up not donating, but replied back asking if there was another way. As other 2A groups I supported – had not asked for that information.
Yes, we’re diverse here in our 2A community. I looked up McCarthy, clicked on my email PAC invite from the USCCA, and when I clicked on WinRed, it linked me to a political party page and even had the photo of a popular party member.
I do agree we need strength in the 2A groups and PACs, but as my insurer – I’m apprehensive, though I know many or most don’t share my thoughts. I wonder if instead, the USCCA’s PAC could still do their thing, but not necessarily have the political affiliations which it has already attached itself to in their grand-opening. Could they do their thing, but on a neutral or bi-partisan approach? Otherwise, won’t they just get pushed aside by the country who will unknowingly categorize them as just another NRA group? IDK. Peace everyone. 
I used to ALWAYS write our Senators & Congressmen (including the one NOT in my district in my state) but lately I felt it was a waste of time. Our elected politicians are all in the bag with the ultra-left Democrats so every time I write to them, I have the typical response like “I’m sorry we don’t agree on this issue, but I appreciate your comments…” blah, blah, blah. Half of the time, their response seems canned as they don’t even address what I wrote to them about. I mean, what did I expect from Hawaii politicians when 99% are all Democrats in the Legislature and 100% of the D.C. reps are likewise. I’m be long buried before we ever have a conservative Republican majority here (or even any Republican majority even if they’re RINOs).
I was afraid WinRed was probably a highly partisan organization. I can’t support that.
Thank you, Burdo! My thoughts exactly. I thought that email was a scam.
It can be found in this thread, see the members’ comments.
That’s EXACTLY what I get from writing my State officials!
The USCCA is not the USCCA for Saving Lives, just as the NRA is not the NRA-ILA. They have different charters so that they can lobby as a separate entity. The VCDL also has a PAC, which is also a separate entity. Being a member of the USCCA, NRA, VCDL, etc., does not make one a member of the PAC, neither does donating to one.
One big difference between the USCCA, and the NRA and VCDL, is that the former is for-profit business, the latter two are non-profit organizations. Being non-profits they are not allowed to lobby, nor are they allowed to commingle funds, so in order to lobby they needed to create a separate organization. The USCCA was not required to do that, but it makes it easier to split to entirely different activities into separate organizations, just as they do with their insurance.
When donations are over $50 is it a requirement by federal law (laws on state PACs may have different limits), that the PAC obtains information on the donor.
Thanks! I wasn’t sure if it was another article or the one already included.
I have only one BIG complaint about all this and that is I do not support a concealed carry reciprocity position. I will not get a license to do something that is my right and recognized as a constitutional right in my state. The U S Constitution guarantees this right and the oath I took several times does not allow me to support any other position. Any other stance is a sellout.
Im with Fizbin .nra forgot their roots. I cringe at the word politics
I think this reply needs a rewrite. Are you stating that the USCCA and Delta Defense are NOT part of The USCCA For Saving Lives? That’s how I want to read it, but it’s clear as mud to me.
I am PRO 2A, but I am also an independent voter. We really need to stop looking at the 2A as a red or blue issue, and the fact that WinRED is the folks it looks like we’re paying, I’m going to have to respectfully decline. Promote the 2A agenda, NOT the GOP agenda.
I am an instructor for the NRA as well, and while I think we do need people fighting for gun rights, I really wish the NRA-ILA would rename itself and kind of remove itself from the other parts of the NRA that stand for what it was founded for. I hope I don’t feel the same about the USCCA at some point in the not so distant future.
So my question is do they have permission to use the USCCA Logo and use an innuendo that they are affiliated with the USCCA. That is how the email is reading and that is the clarification being asked. Simple question and simple answer.
Here is the url “Donate to U.S. Concealed Carry Association for Saving Lives today!”
They are being deceptive imitating association with USCCA.
