New law in San Jose CA

[San Jose to tax gun owners, will confiscate firearms for noncompliance | Fox Business]

Okay, this is just a small town in California. And just the far left trying to push their anti-gun agenda; but, it is also the first step in setting the environment for something very bad to happen. If this does come to fruition… Is a line now being drawn concerning the protection of our 2nd Amendment?

Your thoughts please!

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I’ve read a few articles pushing this strategy. I’m sure we’ll see more of it. It’s semi-related to ACA (Obama Care), because some think SCOTUS ruled that Congress can do whatever it wants so long as it’s a tax.

How would that fit with the rest of the Bill of Rights? What if the city taxed your stitch, religion, or privacy? What if they collected a poll tax on your right to vote? This is the coming legal fight.

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I’m pretty sure CA has state preemption on firearms laws so think this violates CA law as well as the 2A. Not that CA will go after San Jose.

It is not the guns that are costing the city it is the criminals. Why not propose a criminal tax instead of trying to turn law abiding gun owners into criminals with a 2A violating tax??

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All the people in the USA that do not want guns need to move to one state, build a wall around it, have their own flag, and not be allowed to intermingle with any other state.

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And pay reparations to all the gun owners in that state who are forced to move out!

I would recommend a couple states worthy of sacrificing to this cause but wouldn’t want to offend any members who might live there;)

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I thought the Supreme Court ruled that a right cannot be taxed. Of course, that is what a CCW is also, a tax on a right. Our constitution has taken a severe beating. Not just the 2nd amendment either.

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It’s a slippery slope. They float this out there, it will get struck down, they’ll fix the parts that the courts didn’t agree with and resubmit it, rinse, repeat until they get some form of this law in place. Then it’s a simply incrementation process. They wait for an incident and add a paragraph to the law that addresses the specific event. This continues until they say “Gun are a 2nd Amendment Right”, as long as you have video of the purchase, insurance, serial numbered ammo, license to own, psychology screen, pay the tax, pay the registration fee, pay the record keepers fee, pay the police fee, pay the victim restitution fee, pay the home visit fee, pay the neighborhood warning fee, pay the ad infinitum fee… All will be backed by significantly oppressive laws that will put you in prison for violations. Pretty soon it’s still legal to own a firearm it’s it’s just not practical or possible.

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Replace gun tax with poll tax, and sue them. It might stand in CA, but not in any of the free states. Yet.

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I couldn’t read beyond this: The city council’s aim is to try to recoup the cost of responding to gun incidents such as shootings and deaths.
Seems like status quo ridiculousness for democrap run cities. Punish the law abiding and avoid the real issue.

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You forgot the reparation tax.

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San Jose is one of the larger cities in the country with a population in excess of one million. They have the money and political influence of Silicon Valley and we all know how wonderful that is.

When the Mayor was talking about the new fee/tax and insurance requirement he gave an interesting example. If the police come across a criminal that has a gun and can’t prove they paid the tax and insurance it will be confiscated. How lame is that? This tells me he was not the one that came up with this idea. He sounds like another career politician that’s been living off the taxpayers for decades and never has an original thought.

Like most of these initiatives, if you peel back the onion, there will be a well funded group hiding in the weeds. This is being done across the country with varying degrees of success. Look at Virginia where they have all the politicians money can buy. Like someone posted earlier, they try something and if it doesn’t work, they try something else. All of these efforts fade from the headlines until people wake up one day and say how did this happen and it’s too late.

We have several pro 2A groups in this country that are all doing their own thing. Some are more effective than others and some should be more effective. The one thing they all have in common is requesting donations. There needs to be an effort to put together a coalition of these groups at the state and national level to take the lead in protecting firearms ownership. That would be a way of promoting positive information about owning firearms and not just the negative crap that permeates the news cycles.

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Soon they’ll tax the right away to free speech.

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I just read a couple dems in PA are pushing for a 5 cent per round ammo tax and ammo traceability (unique s/n engraved…on the bullet? The case? I dunno’…nor do they)

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No matter what version of gun tax they pass, they’re only hurting the poor. Ironically, it’s the poor who are most likely to live in neighborhoods where they need firearms to defend their homes. But those that can afford the tax can keep their right to bear arms. (This is why they no longer allow poll taxes.) Once again, different rights for different Americans.

Maybe the whole “Colt made us equals” is exactly what politicians hate about firearms.

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the “why do you hate poor people” is the defense the CCDL used in successfully fighting a proposed 50%, then 35% ammo tax here in CT. Gilchrist/W. Hartford…

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I would like to observe the verbal exchanges; if our Founding Fathers came back from the grave; stood before the San Jose city council and expressed their discontent regarding this new rule.

Agreed!
Although, if I may play devil’s advocate, the founders lived in an era when only land owners could vote. All (white) men were created equal, but some distinguished themselves above others. They were quite egalitarian for the age in which they lived, but we’ve since clarified that rights are meant to be applied equally. Taxing legal rights seems to run counter to our core values based on lessons learned and battles fought.

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This nonsense is simply to see what they can get away with. This idiot mayor KNOWS what they did is unconstitutional, but they know its going to take time and money for this stuff to go through the courts.

I think these laws get frozen right off the bat, where they cannot be enforced until a ruling is rendered. This is the typical leftist method…BUT…I’m waiting to see what the people of San Jose do in response.

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San Jose is Kalifornia’s Petri dish.
Their mayor is Newsom 2.0.
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I wonder what local PD’s stance is on this.

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I live in California, I am so sick of these politicians making up these unconstitutional laws. The government has bottomless tax money and we have to pay our gun right organizations to fight back. That’s also our tax money! There needs to be a checks and balances for making a new law against a constitutional amendment and strike it down right away or put a stay on there law until the Supreme Court looks at is…, this is Bull!

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