Fully understandable. We have to be clear though, Pretti isn’t one of us. We’re not Marxists.
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I don’t know. Others may. Although one thing comes to mind is 2A rights do cross over into various subcultures, by his example as well. As an American right. Compared to other countries, we are blessed in many ways.
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In light of what is happening right now with Activist Judges exerting jurisdiction on a National level as they are doing right now. That says more good about J6 than it does the bs going on right now in Minneapolis
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And that’s why we’re losing this war! Not against our government but by insurgents!
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I am not sure if I understand this statement. He wasn’t American. Who is “us,” that you are referring to? Understand as an American The freedom to be what you want in America is rooted in the constitutional rights of self-expression, speech, and the pursuit of happiness, allowing individuals to define their own path. This ideal is embodied in the American Dream, which emphasizes achieving personal goals through hard work. It includes the freedom to worship, protest, and participate in democracy.
This was what “Made America Great”: that you didn’t have to be a clone.
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That is a good question. I consider us people that choose life over death.
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I don’t suspect the action he was engaging in was him choosing death. Getting locked up, sure. Death is not and shouldn’t have even been considered in this country. China? Sure, I really don’t support this country turning into China or a variation of it.
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Someone has never heard of suicide by cop before 
His family even said something changed in him a few months ago.
And I read somewhere that he had scrubbed his social media presence?
These are portents of suicidal ideation.
And lord knows there’s plenty of nut bags out there that will gladly get themselves room temperature and martyr themselves for a cause.
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What I meant is I don’t think Pretti chooses life over death. He chose to risk his life in an immoral way. He was standing for the defense of criminals.
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Sorry, what crime did they commit? I will act like single-minded A-holes do to me all the time here. Well, they were not convicted. You can’t call it murder even though it fits the definition. 
Look, he did not have time to make that decision; it happened in real time. Maybe he was just coming to the aid of a “WOMAN” that was assaulted.
Hey @Robert1246, were you aware that people who want to commit death by cop pull their weapon out and point it at the cops if they are doing so? Hey, but enough about proving my point. Both of them.
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The crime of coming into America illegally.
Yes that is one way. Another is being somewhere a person that should know better shouldn’t. If a bank is being robbed and the police show up are you going to go there because it is your right or are you going to care about your life and stay away. Bank robbers are just trying to feed their families? We have the rule of law not because people want to rule. We have the rule of law so we do live like animals.
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I am sorry; was this established somewhere? Or is it just based off the color of their skin?
How do you explain the crowds that gather and then the police have to push them back? Wait, cops pushed them; they must be criminals also, right?
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That is why LE was there to round up illegal immigrants. Did I miss something?
I can’t explain the crowds it makes no sense to me. I only know I wouldn’t be there. I would let LE do their job. Maybe you know something I don’t, please explain the people they had to push back. Were they peacefuly protesting?
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This site could be viewed as a microcosm of a rally. Some people show up just to express their fact-based views. Then there are those here that are just a little off the spectrum. Sharing their views on how all these people should die for their beliefs. but not their own that are just as vicious. They are somehow even more privileged to act on their beliefs. It is that mindset where things go hopelessly wrong; these people no longer wish to communicate their views but command you with them.
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Yes, they are left leaning. They are controlled by their emotions. I think they are harmless unless they are trying to murder someone. As far as I know that is impossible on the internet. It is upsetting, I think they are being sarcastic. IDK
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What a great analogy!
This site is like ICE showing up to express their fact based views that immigration is a legal process and violating that process is in fact a violation of US laws….
Then some self righteous and completely sanctimonious d!(k bags on some spectrum or another show up to scream that law and order shouldn’t exist.
We are here to discuss self defense and firearms related topics,…. And yes, politics is heavily involved in our right to keep and bear arms, so there’s some political mud slinging as well….
Most of us (even the immigrants if you’re intelligent enough to pay attention) support ICE, maybe not necessarily the current tactics, but the mission at least.
But then,… we get interlopers who use AI to hide behind and sound smart while posting 
that my kids grew out of before they were 12…. 
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Just like trolls there are no interlopers. We are all human. We are all created equal. All are welcome. When we start blaming others for our misery we become victims. We are survivors. G-d bless.
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They never woke up intending to deploy those tactics!
They were forced to make split second decisions!
I wake up the same way. Normally my mission is just to make it home safely. Then some purple haired freaks try to take away my freedoms, I’m making the same decision to put two in the chest and one in the head. Reloading and aiming again at the next threat.
Those street rioters are outnumbering our officers almost 100 to 1.
The unruly tactics being deployed by rioters/domestic terrorists are what causes death! Trying to run over someone simply for doing their sworn duty, is a form of premeditated murder!
We have to call it what it is.
Me on the other hand would have opened fire the very first assault, I don’t give a crap if it was assault with a ham sandwich or an SUV. I have to admit part of this is our fault for not putting it down on the first day!
I understand these creatures have a plan to kill officers and their families! They have been killing officers since that Floyd shthead!
Not acceptable in my book! We are effectively at war!
I think we all have the same plan.
Protect yourself and your family to the death!
Ask Reginald Denny what he would do differently!
Mr. Denny had poor tactics, he was doing his job!
Iryna had poor tactics, she was innocently on her way home from work in what she thought was a safer country!
Laken Riley had poor tactics she was out for a morning jog.
Ashli Babbitt peacefully protesting the exact same way as today, except she was UNarmed!
This list goes on and on.
How do we expect people to be tactically sound when burning people on trains and openly shooting people on the streets and on campuses and in fields where a presidential candidate is pitching a campaign ?
I know exactly what my tactics are today, they are much different than they were 20 years ago!
They can protest all day long, peacefully.
They need to understand that I/we will match that peacefulness equally!
On a side note, I think it’s poor judgment to pull back. If anything, Trump should deploy every Marine with the green light.
I know what some of y’all are thinking, “ lighten up Francis”
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