I agree. People carry what they carry. That’s their business. Normally, unless you are defending a life you avoid trouble. If trouble comes to you then yeah, you defend as warranted. He was obviously well prepared for trouble with his rig. The fact that he got directly involved in an altercation says that he wanted to rock and roll. That to me is a psycho playing out his fantasies. In the end he got what he wanted. A photoshoped image of an innocuous human being.
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I might be wrong about it….. but I’m wondering how much was he paid for this “protest” and was it worthy?
I guess, once he’s dead it wasn’t worthy at all… 
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Not sure why I’m taking the time to reply since I’ve commented about this on X ‘til I got a headache, but here goes nothing.
Iryna Zarutska did NOT deserve to die. Did she make a poor choice riding on a partiular train? Probably. But being new in the country she could be forgiven for her choice. Tragically she took the same train as a recently released vicious animal. She did NOTHING wrong.
Alex Pretti as mentioned in another post, broke at least three (3) laws carrying in the vicinity of ICE officers. So why would he get involved in an altercation with ICE if he was NOT BEING THREATENED? Answer, because he wanted to rock and roll with ICE officers. Did he deserve to die? NO. Did he make poor choices that endangered his life? YES. Is he innocent? NO. Are the officers innocent? YES. They were doing their job. If I’m carrying in a crowded store/restaurant/etc. and someone yells “gun!” I’m immediately putting my hand on my gun and praying that nothing happens. But I am ready to return fire.
Alex Pretti put himself in danger. He is NOT innocent.
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Right or wrong, but parents used to teach their kids people that they could be near and those to avoid. We’ve taught kids that was wrong recently…and many die over that. Bad people in the street, on the train, selling drugs, etc.
IMHO, this blame is 75% on the left for pushing it and 25% on the right for succumbing. Never again.
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Poor. Innocent. ICU. Nurse.
My Azz.
He was actively seeking a confrontation. He got what he wanted.
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I was also wondering, for those of us who did not see Pretti as a lethal threat, I wonder if it was actually the very first shot, which in and of itself - alone - caused the fear in the officers who then perceived the threat as lethal once they heard it.
But if so, where or from who did the first shot come from, and why? IDK.
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This is a totally reasonable response. I agree with you wholeheartedly. I noticed you didn’t say, “Draw the weapon and unload it into the closest person or the one you speculate they might be talking about.” This is a reasonable response. I would commend you and fully support you for those actions. On the outside chance you did draw your weapon and point it at the person, this is still a reasonable act. You are acting responsibly and reasonably. They (ICE) did not. Something to think about: if someone yells “gun,” how did they know it was him and not someone approaching? They had the time to make this decision. Now I also understand he would be the most likely suspect, so sure, point your weapon there. Myself, until I have confirmed the real target, I am not just going to discharge my weapon. Also, I get that this happened in real time, but this is your job; you have received training. Also, I do not believe you personally would just shoot someone on a hunch. Also, putting on a uniform acknowledges you are putting yourself at risk. You should not put on the uniform if you are going out to put the public at risk. Again, I am pro-law enforcement. I feel saddened by all the mistakes that were made on this fateful day. I will not preclude anyone for their combined bad judgment.
This is why I disagree with this statement. I think you understand why. You yourself said you would have acted in a reasonable and responsible manner. They need to be held to those standards also. Please keep in mind I am not defending Petti’s actions; they were clearly in error. I will not say he was in error for exercising his constitutional rights. I am just not going to defend the actions of law enforcement. even though I wish I could.
I, for one, when in the presence of law enforcement, always announce I am carrying; it makes them actually feel safer knowing I have gone through background checks. AKA threat reduction.
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So then when the next president is a democrat, it’s OK to hunt down and murder all the Jan 6 protestors? You think that is right?
Unlike LE, we go to work with no fear that it would be the last time we’ll see our loved ones.
If I were protesting with Pretti, I would be honestly convinced, as planned and egged on by Tampon Tim, that he’s there to do harm to the “fascists.” His gun made him a lethal threat.
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Dim’s already did that with Ashli Babbit.
Besides a world of difference between physically inserting yourself into confrontations with agents who are conducting lawful law enforcement operations (twice even), and what your wildly apocryphal straw man query supposes.
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I was visiting my favorite pawn shop yesterday. In the gun case they had 5 P-320s. I’ve never seen 5 of any one type of pistol at this store. They were selling used for $250 to $450, depending on optics. $450 got you a decent weapon with good optics and a few magazines.
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A sensible and reasonable answer. In that context I agree the officers should be held accountable for their actions, just as the governor and other high-ranking politicians should be held accountable for stirring up the pot. In any case, the officers will likely be prosecuted to an extent and the government will be held liable.
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It will go like this. They will prosecute them and find them guilty. Put them in prison. That will go like this. They will walk them through the front door and right out the back door; Trump will pardon them.
The only problem with this is, and I am just “being real.” They would have to do something about Trump on J6. To clarify, I am a constitutionalist. I am not a “party person.” If it is deemed to be against the law here, then it must be there. In my world. LOL, I know it is a dream world.
There is no comparison to the Jan 6th disturbance at the Capitol and the Insurrection Gov Walz is engaged in.
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Further, Minnesota has a preemption law that prohibits cities or any agent acting in the color of gov’t whether city, county, or other agency from creating a local law that contradicts the state laws.
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Yeah, I would say J6 was far worse. So yeah, there is that. Tim just encompasses one state, not the country as a whole. The actions of the people “stirring the pot” are very similar. Two cooks, one pot… LOL that should be a cameo video.
I’m not trying to be a conspiracy theorist here.
I’ll let investigation play out and accept the outcome either way.
However that Pretti was licensed to carry is extremely suspicious because it promotes division amongst the 2A community, like this tragedy might have been scripted to do just that.
So I’ve got to ask, isn’t that a goal of the Marxists?
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Let’s not forget no judges stood up for the J6 “insurrectionists.”
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