Weekend classes at L.A. Progressive Shooters are sold out through March. Registrations for permit-to-carry courses at Pink Pistols Twin Cities, which serves LGBTQ people in Minneapolis and St. Paul, are up from an average of five people per class to 25 — the group recently added seven more courses to accommodate increased interest, and those are filling up, too. To paraphrase a recent meme: The right is arguing for gun control, and the left is buying guns.
This is the moment to embrace Americans who are just now realizing that the 2nd Amendment gives them the ability to protect themselves from those who are breaking the law. If the left is now onboard to arm themselves they should also be onboard to limit the Governments infringement on their legal right to own a firearm and carry that firearm.
For those on the left it looks like the Alex Pretti shooting was their Ruby Ridge.
I think I posted on here before, My Far, Bernie Sanders, Leftwing son called me from Alamogordo NM when he lived down there, said he thought he needed a gun because he saw a letter sized poster on a telephone pole that said something like “Hunt Down and Kill the Lefties”. I told him like I tell all first time guy owners, find a person in your community that knows about gun safety, gun laws and the use and care of firearms.
He fortunately had a good friend that was a retired SF guy that helped him, took him out shooting, taught him and his wife how to handle and take care of firearms and when to shoot and when to run, so to speak. Both kiddo and wife carry daily now. They moved up north where it is way more comfortable to carry a firearm.
What do you think it was that made your son swing so far left? This is always of an interest for me when I hear people talking about how their children or parents don’t vote the way they do. My Children are Libertarians like myself, maybe it’s because they can cherry pick the issues they feel passionate about, or maybe it’s because they put the Constitution first, I don’t really know. They are both small Government, Federal Government out of their bedrooms while supporting Capitalism and the Constitution types.
Now I was very conservative till I moved from Arizona to Oregon and the shift primarily was due to me becoming a Libertarian which took place because I was making friends with gay and trans people where I stopped caring so much about social issues and became more focused on Constitutional issues. I grew up very Goldwater Conservative as was my father and my grandfather.
Interestingly enough my father who used to tell me growing up that all one has to do is look at the Mascot for the Democratic Party to understand what you are getting in the deal is now a Hard Nose Democrat, he flipped back in 2019. He was again a Goldwater/Reagan Conservative so I was not that surprised when he came to the conclusion that Trump was not about small Government or lowering tax burdens.
It wasn’t me and R, it wasn’t grand parents uncle or aunts. We, for the most part are Right of Right. He claimed it was Punk Rock and the Punk community. Me, I think it was the public schools, they got a hold of him, his interest was music and performing arts. He and I are pretty much diametrically opposed in regards to government but we still get along just fine.
Except that the curriculum in these courses will be “how to get away with killing someone you disagree with” under the guise of self-defense. Get ready for a rash of CCLs starting fights that escalate to lethal force.
Not in the least. You need to read about what the Democrats in Virginia are doing. They want to turn it into another Cali or some such leftist state, mag bans, additional taxes, permit to purchase, etc.,etc.
Strongly disagree with that. I listened to Punk, too, and still a bit today. There a lot of it is anti-everything, and hating everyone, Left, Right, homo, government, God; Nihilism, doing what you want, not what you are told/expected to do, etc., to do, etc., etc.. That is not Liberal, but anarchist. A good example of that is F-ck you… That’s Why, by the Smut Peddlers. BTW, they definitely are not Right-wing.
I never thought I’d see the day, but Chuck Schumer just declared that “the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”
Yes, you read that right. The same Chuck Schumer who’s spent decades trying to gut our Second Amendment just admitted what we’ve been saying all along.
Right now, as Congress negotiates the next round of government funding, there’s a narrow window to include the Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act.
Our rights don’t end at state borders. If Schumer truly believes “shall not be infringed,” then he should support nationwide reciprocity for law-abiding gun owners.
Here’s the reality: In just two weeks, DHS funding expires, and both parties are scrambling for concessions. Democrats want due process protections and body cameras for immigration enforcement. Republicans are pushing for the SAVE Act and election integrity measures.
This is our moment to demand that concealed carry reciprocity be included in the deal.
I hate to disillusion the liberal-haters in here, but plenty of liberals own guns. We just look at them differently than some others. We also recognize, as the late Justice Scalia wrote in the Heller decision, that all rights have limits. This differs from some arguments I have seen on the far right that the 2A is unlimited, that they should be able to have anything and everything they want. That has never been the law, even freedom of speech has some limits.
And a couple of examples. Vice-President Harris famously said she has owned and practiced with a Glock since her prosecutor’s days in San Francisco. I learned to shoot over 60 years ago at Boy Scout camp. Plenty of liberals I know are ex-military and own guns, but aren’t flashy about it. And you would not believe the number of liberal men and women who come to me for advice about firearms training, which I ALWAYS tell them to do first, esp USCCA-sponsored classes, and on what type of firearm to consider as a first purchase. And even though my state does not require a license for open or concealed carry, I have a lifetime handgun carry permit. So if that shocks anyone, check your assumptions at the door please.
That’s all great, but please explain why it’s nearly 100% of bills like this that get pushed forward by Democrsts.
How do you explain Virginia, and what’s happening there?
I do believe there are liberals who own and use guns, for sure, but they must be a pretry silent minority in the Democrat party, because from where I sit, it still looks like Democrats want to pass unconstitutional, extreme restrictions.
I’m not going to repeat myself in this thread, but I’ve brought a lot of statistical evidence over the years to this forum regarding the total ineffectiveness of current gun control laws at stopping violent crime, yet Democrats in states they control keep pushing more and more restrictions forward, even on very common firearms. Please explain that, as a liberal. We’re not talking exteeme weapons here, unless you agree with Tim Walz that a basic AR15, of which there are millions and millions in circulation, is an extreme weapon.
I think you missed the point. Liberal gun ownership and training is increasing. And why? A substantial number of those, from my personal experience, is fear of MAGA and its secret police, ICE. And even those people, and me too, believe in reasonable gun laws, such as magazine capacity and universal background checks. The most extreme on the right want zero regulation. In the meantime, many of us have decided not to be defenseless, whether from “ordinary” criminals or those radicalized on the right. You may well be outraged at that. But it is what it is.
Making laws for gun does no good. It is the people committing crimes with guns we want to stop. Guns are for stopping crimes not committing them unless one is a criminal. Not saying you are a criminal, you are thinking like one.
I’m in support for anyone to exercise their 2A rights and always will be. My question to those that are Pro-Regulation but are not Anti-Gun. What does regulating magazine size to a specific round count do to curb criminals from acquiring and / or modifying to increase capacity to suit their needs? Absolutely nothing
If a regulation that was intended to restrict access to components for purpose of thwarting criminal activities does nothing but limit the capabilities of law abiding citizens, what was its purpose?
Evil does what it wants, regardless of “regulations” in place.
Thanks for the voice of reason. We can always come back with “Criminals don’t obey laws”, and it CANNOT be disputed. (At least, by logical people) I guess WE must be the extreme right he must be talking about.
That’s because you have bought into the narrative. Orange man bad.
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