Leftist and liberal gun groups are seeing a rush of new members

Yep orange man bad. At least to anyone with the level of legal and election experience I have. To those with the real TDS, he is a god. Blasphemy. Donald Trump is trampling the Constitution openly and MAGA cheers.

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And, do you feel the “reasonable” gun laws you propose will thwart criminal behavior based on your legal experience?

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I see terrorists as the threat. When they come for us they are not just coming for republicans. They are coming for all Americans. The more guns and responsibly armed Americans we have the better.

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Certainly one of the threats.

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I’m not sure arming up against those enforcing federal laws is a good idea
 Just Sayin.

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Sure it is!

Then, because citizens are using guns against federal law enforcement, there will be MASSIVE push for those so called “common sense gun laws” or “reasonable gun laws”

The fear that this administration is a totalitarian regime plays right into the foundation of a true socialist totalitarian regime!

While at the same time doing NOTHING to stop criminals from getting guns, and stripping citizens of their ability to defend themselves from the criminals, OR their own government!

Just look at Mexico to find an example!

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Whatever it takes. I find that the more people find out what it truly means to own gun(s) for all the right reasons, responsibly, the more they come around, even if they started out anti-gun. I believe the vast majority of Americans are pro 2A. The more moderates just need to get familiarized with what gun ownership and self defense is all about. The valid reasons for larger capacity, state cooperation for reciprocity, for example.

On the other hand, I think most 2Aers are for keeping guns out of the hands of the mentally ill. Figuring out how to determine that and funding the effort is how we can work together.

The house is big enough for everyone! Encourage the new found interest.

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Fixed it for you. :wink: unless of course “larger” means 31+ or 100+ drums :slight_smile:

I do agree, majority of Americans are pro 2A, but of those, some are pro-regulation as well.

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Yes, I can see it as a good thing. Dare I say, in to the main stream.

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There’s an opportunity for the 2A community to re-define “common sense” gun laws/regulations. Right now, what is common sense to gun owners may not be for others. If we start with, no regulations, period, we end the conversation. Maybe I’m Pollyanna, but I believe once people understand more about gun ownership there will be more common common sense.

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“
The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

This has never been the case in my lifetime.

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No one hates Liberals, nor any other group. We dispise those that do not believe in our RKBA. As to all rights have limits, how do you comport that with the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed? I will politely state no one is always right, and regardless of his mental acuity, he is wrong on the RKBA.

Furthermore, the Left co-opted the term Liberal - just as they have many other terms - to mean far-left of center. So are you a Liberal in the traditional sense or the modern, leftist, sense?

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As it should be. Since the 1934 NFA, all we have done is compromise our rights away. You have seen recently that the SCOTUS has opened their eyes a bit on what the Second Amendment actually means, from about the Bruen decision. The worst part of our system of justice and laws is that the left continually passes unconstitutional laws that then have to go through the courts, which takes many years and massive amounts of money. Then when that law is ruled unconstitutional, they then pass another siimilarly unconstitutional law, and the process starts, yet again. What I like is that Trump has been playing their game on the tariff issue.

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I know this is a touchy subject because trauma makes it difficult to think critically. No one can have too much fire power when defending themselves. The laws that that limit our ability to defend our selves are unconstitutional. Politicians either know this or are traumatized and don’t know themselves.

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Iran is a example
 NAZI Germany was another
 most of europe
 Viet Nam is also one


the populaces are mostly disarmed


Iranians were being slaughtered by the Republican Guard


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In this sense let’s go to the Freedom of speech, First amendment.

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech
”

AAaaaa except when it’s Donald Trump, or unless when it’s speech taking the form of fires and destruction, or when it’s a religion that disagrees with abortion, or, or, or


I watch the absolute wording of the second amendment “shall not be infringed” get interpreted ad infinitum by the same folks the will stand in front of a burning building with American Flags burning on the ground hiding behind the words “congress shall make no laws
” in the first amendment.

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And, to your point, “shall not be infringed” is even more broad than “Congress shall make no law
”

It’s probably one of the most unambiguous phrases in the whole Constitution.

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I hear you. But the numbers are the numbers: Most Americans, including gun owners, favor “common sense” gun laws, whatever that means. Unfortunately, those making the laws don’t understand what it means to be serious about the defense of ourselves and our loved ones. Do I like being told I can’t have more than 10 rounds in a magazine (I live in Mass.)? Hell no. The reasons behind the regulation makes no sense to us and fall apart once one understands real life self defense scenarios.

It sucks, but the burden is on the 2A community to do the educating. Digging our heels in and saying there should be no regulation, period, hasn’t worked out for us. The Constitution is a living document, hence amendments. The Founding Fathers didn’t envision surface-to-air shoulder mounted anti-aircraft missiles but we need to regulate them. I know that’s an extreme but we can say the same about cars.

The more people we can expose to responsible gun ownership and self defense, the more the truth will resonate. Then we can shift the conversation to making sure those who shouldn’t be possessing a firearm, don’t because isn’t that the real issue?

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Couldn’t have said it better myself.

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Yes, the Second Amendment is quite clear, “shall not be infringed.” That means all “gun control” laws are unconstitutional. Worse in my state, our state Constitution also has similar wording to the federal amendment - written by the same person - that also states, “shall not be infringed.” Yet the democrats disregard that, too.

Most people do not believe in “common-sense” gun laws, as there are none, unless you mean something like it is illegal to use a firearm in the commission of a crime. We have rules on using firearms, but they are not laws, and those rules are to keep us and anyone nearby safe, such as don’t point a firearm at anything you do not want to destroy.

No, but that is definitely an issue.

They are regulated. However, we are still “allowed” to own tanks, cannons, grenades, automatic weapons, etc., and even build weapons.

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