Illinois mayor issues coronavirus emergency that gives her the power to ban the sale of guns, ammo, alcohol, and more

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Reason #23,345,490,203 to not live in IL.

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The problem is it is not just Il. that is losing its mind. Pay very close attention to what is being done in the next couple of weeks.

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It’s reasons like this, that I have drawn my line in the sand, and will fight. If we don’t shut down these kinds of things, they WILL spread. Eventually, the anti-2A forces would out number us, and then we would have nowhere left to run. But, yes, Illinois has some idiot laws.

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It goes farther than that, it also gives her the power to " appropriate" anything that may be needed for the " greater good" In other words if you prepared for an emergency by stocking food and supplies she can take that stock and give it to those who haven’t! If she feels she needs your vehicle these powers give her the right to take it! These emergency powers basically make your Constitutional rights null and void and gives her the power to do whatever she pleases!

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which is why I left!

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I moved to Texas from Chicago. I just want to personally invite freedom loving people from Illinois to move here to Texas. We have much better weather, more 2A rights, TONS of great paying jobs, ZERO state income tax, and… toilet paper!!!
I just took this picture of a truck with IL plates. We welcome all…

However. … gasoline was way up to $1.76/ gallon here today. So there’s that.

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It also makes it “legal” for them to hold all their meetings during the period, behind closed doors.

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Never let a crisis go to waste…

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Don’t overlook the “authority” to take possession, including title, to any private property.
Apparently Champaign thinks their city code trumps the Constitution.

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It doesn’t shine a favorable light on her that as soon as a nat’l emergency was announced, she pounced and started grabbing with both hands.

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Those rascally Republicans are at it again! NOT

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Was talking to my wife this morning about this possibility. While I live in socialist party happy Western Oregon, this Illinois socialist mayor knows exactly what she is after.

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I find it , at this point anyway, that LE would enforce her law of appropriating others property.
There are many LEO’s out there who are “Oathers”.

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I don’t think the plan is socialist here, I believe the plan is to protect the citizens from total chaos and anarchy. I mean, sports teams cannot even win without the average city going out and destroying everything, never mind during something that is panic inducing, due to its “novel” aspect.

I’m not saying I agree with it, but between the choice of mass destruction vs a temporary suspension of sales, the latter isn’t entirely unreasonable. Life isn’t Mayberry. The second amendment covers ALL weapons, from just using a rock to a broad sword and gun. So he isn’t impeding the second amendment here, in my point of view, he is making sure all citizenry is safe. I understand wanting people to be able to have enough ammo and a weapon to be safe, but you have to consider the entire city from people using this as an excuse to reenact their favorite scenes from The Purge.

To be fair, its a redundant precaution, given how hard it is to obtain an FOID card in the state of IL, which is really the egregious violation of rights and shouldn’t exist. Also, it says “May be implemented” not guaranteed.

The IL constitutions doesn’t even guarantee the right to bear arms.

SECTION 22. RIGHT TO ARMS
Subject only to the police power, the right of the
individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be
infringed.
(Source: Illinois Constitution.)

http://www.ilga.gov/commission/lrb/conent.htm

My personal interpretation of this, is that is fine to carry and the individual rights is second only to police, but apparently IL seems to disagree with this. Here is a good article on such:

https://www.chuckhawks.com/column78_2nd_Amendment_Illinois.htm

at the end of the day, Federal Law trumps state and state trumps city. It’s going to be hard to enforce and just lead to black market sales, which defeats its original intent, to protect citizens. California is another state that never guaranteed 2nd Amendment rights, dating back to its founding. So nothing that comes out of these states should be shocking as they have always had these bias’.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displayText.xhtml?lawCode=CONS&division=&title=&part=&chapter=&article=I

If you live in one of these states, I would recommend leaving. I’m from Massachusetts. I wouldn’t move back if you paid me. Maine’s biggest draw for me is it’s constitution, which is even better than the federal one because it is so straight forward.

Section 16. To keep and bear arms. Every citizen has a right to keep and bear arms and this right shall never be questioned.

https://www.maine.gov/legis/const/

Side note, my SD9VE is from Illinois. It’s rather ironic that it is easier to buy a gun from them if you’re not a citizen that if you are.

My condolences to those who have to deal with this, though.

Can you cite any medical evidence that a legally armed citizen is more likely to catch or spread Covid-19? If not why is it part of an order to deal with the spread of a disease?

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I never made that claim. What I stated was that increased tension over the virus was something the mayor wanted to have contingencies in place for deescalation, so anarchy incited by fear, ignorance or malice wouldn’t run rampart.

Never said you claimed that there was medical evidence, I am sure there is not. I was pointing out that the action was not reasonable for the emergency that the city is dealing with. The Mayor of Champaign is increasing tensions by attempting to use the crisis to push her anti-2A agenda. Disarming lawful citizens only protects the criminals. After Federal inmate No. 32751-034 (then known as Mayor Ray Nagin) followed through on a similar order after Hurricane Katrina there was a law passed making such actions illegal.

On the bright side the Champaign City Council is getting a lot of heat over this and are starting to crawfish. They claim they just did a cut & paste of a 2006 IL law to create the ordinance. 42 USC 5207 was also passed in 2006. Lets see if they update the order to avoid conflicts with Federal law.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/5207

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This is getting completely out of hand. I really am concerned that someone is going to get hurt bad, or worse.

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Sorry, but anti gun politicians will use any excuse to steal a constitutional right. I also don’t believe they intend it to be temporary.

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