ICE and Self defence?

If you are comparing ICE under Obama to ICE under Trump, then you are a moron at best or a simply a racist. Did ICE wear masks under Obama? Did they arrest entire apartment buildings using Blackhawk helicopters repelling onto the rooftop? Did they go to Home Depot and arrest and jail all of the brown people they saw, and figured out who were citizens later? Please, get you head out of your a$$.

The good news is that they make themselves known every time they speak.

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Just another troll. Won’t be seeing you again. Bye.

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(sighing!) Some people are just interested in sowing the wind and then cry victim when they reap a whirlwind.

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They are insighting fear to break the law. I think you will agree is a good thing.

Did paid protestors try to DOX the ICE agents during the Obama administration?

Nope, and you nor any other liberal don’t get to play the victim card. You try to identify ICE agents so you can threaten them and their families. When ICE starts wearing masks to stop that, you cry foul. You impede ICE agents in the lawful execution of their duty, then again cry foul when ICE starts using muscle against you.

Nobody but your fellow leftist TDS infected brethren are buying your victimhood status. To the general public you’re all just a bunch of immature troublemakers.

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Facts tend to pi$$ them off. :rofl:

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One cannot force someone to believe one’s facts. This is America. Would we have it any other way?

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2 more TDS infected liberals added to my ignore list.

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I legally carry. And…THIS^^^ is NOT true. ICE absolutely DOES grab US Citizens randomly based on color.

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Welcome to the community. As responsibly armed Americans our discussions are based on truth. If one wants to say something is not true please provide something that can provide reason to think otherwise. In other word proof that it isn’t true. Thanks for your input.

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ICE is allowed to detain you and verify your identity and citizenship. Your opinion of these actions doesn’t change anything.

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Welcome to the community!

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Welcome ev0steev0.

Non judgemental on this initial thread, but it came out Oct. 2025, way before the sad Jan. 2026 MN event occurred. Who would have known, how poignant on January 7th? May she R.I.P.

I wonder though, do we really think that ICE workers, in their training, are told to look for persons of color?

Let’s suppose they are. Why is that? Would ICE agents think that a non legal US resident is not a person of color? There actually are undocumented non colored persons, but are less likely to work or live in mass communities. And I believe - are less frequent, not as many. I’m not sure why it’s that way, but it is.

Nothing personal, there is no shame in it, but it’s not easy for a person to hide their color.

“Going out on a limb here”, but it might be a fact that if you moved here from south of the border or from the continent of East Africa, God blessed you to have beautiful color.

No disrespect intended, but if the law says to arrest them, it’s the first and obvious description to seek.

Grab? How often, at what rate? I have not yet met someone who was grabbed? I’ve not yet been grabbed. When we say grabbed, do we mean “questioned, detained, arrested”? If we are a US citizen and “grabbed”, are we not released right away? Not held due to “status”, but held for other actions or reasons - if detained?

I regret though, I know I’m biased, just trying to understand the “why’s”, of such debate, when all prior administrations also deported, some possibly even more than today’s.

I fear that other forces, such as politicians, and some media stand to gain in divisiveness, while a part of me wishes we can move past this.

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Bean is a naturalized American citizen from south of the border,…..

Nah, you’re right, he doesn’t know what he’s talking about!

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Start here

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