I have been letting the younger three hold the unloaded gun. I’m a firm believer of getting them familiar with something vs shielding them. Like you said…it gets old fast lol. My 7, 11, and 13 year old are my main concern. The 15 and 17 yo are more experienced with guns.
And I hear you in the safety. Thanks 
Mainly to keep the younger ones out for now in case they decide to get a wild hair up their butt and get “curious”. At least until the novelty of it wears off.
All is good, just complimenting your info for a full picture.
I was in the military and also grew up around guns. My wife didn’t care for them so for the passed 20+ years we didn’t have one. With all the craziness going on, I now have 2 handguns both purchased since July.
I have a 10 year old in the house and have a Glock like pistol. While I certainly can train to use or not use a safety, my wife and daughter just are not into shooting like me. I didn’t want there to be a situation and them forget the safety because they were panicked. I have taken my entire family shooting and they know the rules. I still try to make sure I keep access to the guns restricted.
I personally think you are looking at things a little skewed as far as safety/no safety and kids though.
When it comes to kids, the safety or lack off one does not matter. Kids are naturally curious. If a gun is around and they get curious they are likely to click the safety off while they are exploring it. Even that extra grip safety is not enough.
When the firearm is not on you it should be secured so they don’t have access. That could be in a safe like the 49.00 one from Cabela’s (on sale right now) or even the 15.00 lock box from them. If you can’t do that, the gun should have a trigger lock or cable lock so it physically can’t be fired.
When my gun is not on me it is in one of 2 places. I have a hidden storage compartment with RFID lock that I made. My wife has a key and I have a key. It is only in that box at night so I have relatively quick access. If I don’t have it on me and I am not in the bedroom it goes into a portable safe hidden in my bedroom closet. Right now that is anchored to the closet shelf until I install to the floor. There are 2 sets of keys to that. We have the keys hidden for relatively quick access.
My ammo is in the bedroom closet as well.
Everything is hidden so you wouldn’t even know it was there.
Hope that helps.
Isn’t it on the 380?
My wife’s made the list.
Thanks! That info helps a lot. I want more guns in the future and would like to get more comfortable with them, but with ammo in high demand its a pain to go out and practice. I am a good shot though! I was rather proud of myself shooting for the first time; not to brag. It was a good feeling lol. Considering my parents were both MP marksmen in the Army, I guess something rubbed off. Have a good one and thanks for your service btw.
The 380 is the thumb safety-the general EZ recall is the hammer.
To add some clarity… Glock DOES have a safety. In fact, the Glock has three internal safeties. They just don’t have an external safety that needs to be manipulated. The act/motion of pulling the trigger disengages each of the three safeties in sequence instead of the User flicking off the external safety.
This video (skip to 1:28 for relevant animation) shows the operation of a Glock and shows the 3 internal safeties (Trigger Safety, Firing Pin Safety, and Drop Safety). If any of the 3 safeties is engaged, the Glock will not fire.
So this is why a Glock (and any other similar striker-fired pistol) is safe to carry. As long as the trigger is protected by a holster, there is no way for the firearm to discharge. Obviously be careful when holstering to avoid obstructions (shirt, brass, pencil, etc) in the holster from pulling the trigger unintentionally.
Having an external safety can definitely be a benefit in some situations, and depending on the firearm. Many firearms are available with both options. Mostly, though it is user preference whether you do or don’t get a safety. Just make sure you practice with whichever you have.
Now as far as kids are concerned… An external safety is not sufficient to prevent small children from harming themselves or others. They can absolutely flick off that safety on purpose or by accident. There are other threads on the forum around securing your firearm around young children, but in a nutshell they should not have access to it unsupervised. It should either be on your person in a holster or in some lockable container.
Thanks Harvey! I’ll check out the video. None of the gun sales guys told me about those internal safeties.
It is not so important how many invisible safeties are inside the handgun… it is important how you feel the handgun is safe.
I use a safety. I just like the little extra layer of me potentially screwing up, especially when I holster. That being said, many instructors actually recommend new shooters stay away from a safety. The main reason is time to react to a situation (average 3 seconds) and there have been cases where good people try to protect themselves, they draw the gun and try to pull the gun, but they failed to deactivate the safety.
You have to practice no matter what, but if you carry a safety, you want to practice drawing and deactivating the safety lever hundreds then thousands of times to engrain the movement. Not having a safety means you can literally draw the gun and shoot, there is nothing to stop you from doing this.
A Glock with a good Holster is a great beginner set up. You have to entrain trigger discipline and the firearm safety rules (but you have to do this with a safety too 
). I may make my home defense gun a pistol without a safety in the case that my wife has to grab the gun when I’m not around. My wife
knows how to use guns, but she doesn’t frequent the range like I do. She could grab a gun with no safety and go to work without much of a hiccup.
External safeties are purely user preference. Practice drawing and deactivating the weapon during dry fire exercise to engraving the movement if you use one.
Do yourself a favor…if you carry in your purse (which is not recommended) make sure the gun is in a holster or compartment in the purse. You don’t want a pen, lip stick, etc. Getting in the trigger gaurd and accidently causing a discharge.
BTW, the reason it is not suggested to carry in a purse is that is the first thing a criminal tries to steal. Also ask yourself how many times have you left your purse unattended around your kids. If you leave the gun in the purse and then the purse around your kids, that gives them easy access.
What is the Edie Eagle program?
I just looked it up. I am going to ask the cub scout pack I am part of if the scouts can use.
Thanks for sharing.
Your S&W Shield just got an important safety recall. Better check it out=https://www.ammoland.com/2020/11/important-safety-recall-on-smith-wesson-mp-shield-ez-pistols/#axzz6evBfomqF
I have read that the Portuguese Army adopting the new Glock 17 Gen5 Coyote, but I am wondering why they didn’t choose Glock 19 as the Navy SEALs did? And anyone knows what Coyote refers to? Color?
I have Glock 17 gen3 and Glock 19 gen 4 and both guns work perfectly. I had more than 100k rounds shot out from my Glock 17 and it still works flawlessly, but I think it is not so ergonomic as the Glock 19. What are your thoughts?
Both are great guns. From what I read, the SEALs went with the 19 due to weight and size. What they save on the 17 they can carry a little extra gear. More than likely spare mag and ammo.
Yes, Coyote refers to color. My G19X is Coyote Tan.
Ive mentioned before about external safeties. My EDC has an external safety, but i dont use it. I dry fire everyday including drawing from concealment. Id rather if i need to use my firearm, i dont have to remember to click the safety. That being said, i first learned how to draw while clicking the safety. Just see it as an unneeded step.
Welcome to the family @KIM_K and you are blessed to be here.
Welcome to the family brother @Mike142 and you are in the right place at the right time.