It’s really interesting to see how divisive this topic is and how nasty people can get over it. My employer requires either a CV19 injection or a negative CV19 test. It’s a little ridiculous to have weekly tests when those around me with the vaccine have an incredibly small chance of catching CV19. I’ve read a range of 94% to 99.8% effective with more of the articles on the 99% side of the range. Why are vaccinated individual afraid of those that aren’t? When you think about the risks we accept when we leave our house every day, once you’re vaccinated; it doesn’t seem any worse than anything else we may encounter that could end our lives or hospitalize us.
I’m not anti-vax as my kids have all of their vaccines and I’ve had all of mine with the exception of the flu virus and the CV19 injection. I’m in the boat of wanting to watch how this unfolds over the next year and possibly revisit the injection come January when it’s been out for a little over a year. I’m 43 and my age group has approximately a 99.98% survival rate from COVID. I’m not obese, I don’t have diabetes, I don’t smoke, and I don’t have any immune issues. Quite the opposite my vitamin D and other health markers are all very good. With that being said, why would I risk any side affects for something that I have a 0.02% chance of dying from? Comparatively, the chance of dying from a car accident in NV (especially Vegas) is 0.01%. I don’t plan on selling my truck and not driving to work, so why would I risk the side-effects of a “vaccine”, albeit low, for something that is insanely low-risk for me? It’s just not worth the risk at this time. It’s also seemingly ridiculous for those that are vaccinated to get all pissy about those that aren’t for the low-risk they have of catching CV19, yet they are willing to get into a car and even put their kids in a car.
My wife is a Sonographer at a women’s clinic. They’ve been tracking for a couple months now incidents of abnormal bleeding in women, especially post-menopausal women. Every incident they encounter the woman has received the vaccine. They’ve also been tracking fetal demises with women that have had the vaccine and it’s scary. From what my wife and her co-Sonographers have scanned most are in the first and second trimester, but they’ve had more third trimester demises as well which is especially sad. Last week my wife scanned a woman who’s baby died at 38 weeks. For those of you that don’t know, that’s only a couple weeks from full-term and that baby could’ve been born completely healthy. Granted I’m not a woman but it does beg the question of how would it mess with a man’s reproductive health. Again the risk versus reward just isn’t there.
Then there’s the politics of this issue which has just gotten more and more insane by the day but I’ll try and steer clear of that.
So if an employer tells you to take poison, the government should have no say in that employer’s rules? You might not die, but it also is not likely reasonable to comply. There are good reasons the government has employment laws, as the past, and even the present, shows employers have, and do, take advantage of employees knowing that many will not leave, for many reasons.
For a virus that has over a 98.2% survival rate, only those that feel the need or might believe the virus is more deadly than the “vaccine” should consider taking it. You should read my prior posts on the “vacccine”, along with going to the CDC links I provided and educate yourself on this topic.
Thank you for your comments. Isn’t it a beautiful thing that we can all have an opinion in this great land? No fear yet of retribution from government (well, maybe a little from the IRS and FBI), but the tech giants and the far left are certainly trying their best to shut us down. I hope and pray this doesn’t happen. Can we still be friends?
I’m not sure what’s all be discussed here but one thing is certain, I would not dare question my employees over personal medical questions! Does it look like I want to get my ass kicked in court?
It’s a civil rights violation for them to require you to get a vaccine! The government needs to back off!
I do believe a property owner/company has rights. Matter of fact, my state is a hire & fire at will state! Meaning, an employer does not have to give a reason to hire or fire you!
BUT keep in mind, yes it’s yours but employees in my opinion have more rights and justly so! Kinda like Tenet and Landlord laws, you could see yourself having to pay into legal expense to get that person out!
I decided last week that all my employees must convert to Catholicism or find employment elsewhere. And by the way, even though you’ve worked for the company for 24 years, you can kiss that pension you’re eligible for starting next year goodbye if you don’t comply. My business, my rules.
Except… no.
Why should business not be subject to laws just as every individual citizen is?
I think you are wrong. When a company fires you because you do not do your job is one thing but when the company want to violate my right to choose what I put in my body that is discrimination. Suppose a company required you to wear read shirts on Tuesdays or you will be fired. The pro-abortion laws state that a women has the right to make the decision to kill her baby because she is protecting her body. She has the right to make this decision. Well not being vaccinated is my choice to protect my body. The same right I have when in a hospital and I do not want to take a certain drug. The idea of some travel companies wanting to ban people from traveling if they did not get vaccinated. If people who are vaccinated refuse to travel with people who are not vaccination then let them stay home. We are headed back to the days when black people had to set in the back of the bus. That was very wrong then and firing people for not being vaccinated is very wrong today.
Currently company I work for doesn’t require it, but is strongly recommended. I can see it becoming more of an issue when they start to require different professions to get it . As an over the road truck driver, when will they come out and say if you have a CDL license ,it will be required to cross a state line. Medical profession basically all ready required . What’s next, food service workers? So on and so forth.
The line is not thin at all. Failing a drug test which detects the presence of illegal substances in your system is evidence that you have committed at least one state and/or federal crime, possibly several. Opting out of a poorly understood unapproved, experimental medical procedure is very different.
What you say is true. The thinness of the line I was referring to is not legality/illegality of the substances. It is the company policy which dictates the drug tests. What action would you take if the company instituted a policy that vaccination is required for continued employment?
It is an issue of time. Covering wider and wider bases like you described, needs time. After a couple of years, either fears over the vaccine will be resolved, or the need for the vaccine will be gone, or the concerns will prove to be true (hopefully not the latter)
I am fortunate in that I am retired, so I needn’t concern myself with possibly onerous edicts of an employer. I do occasionally consult for my former employer, mainly because I have knowledge and experience which exists nowhere but inside my head. He is unlikely to make unreasonable demands of me.
Hypothetically? I don’t know what I would do, but I do know I would think long and hard about it before deciding.