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I just found out that USCCA is being sued in court and the way I obtained this information was by a well respected lawyer ANDREW BRANCA that just deals in self defense who use to be on their board I just would like some input on this cause I’m also member And have never had issues…I like my membership I was kind of stunned so I’ll reserve my judgment until I hear from members here… Let me know what you guys think I’m going to post the link here… But I wanna point out though he says that he has to reserve his judgment to because there’s 2 sides to every story
https://lawofselfdefense.com/uscca-sued-in-federal-court-refused-to-cover-platinum-member/

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Did you read the update here? Like anything, it definitely seems like there is more to the story. If the prosecutor is still pursuing, he feels he has a pretty darn good case. It happened in. Walmart parking lot, so there is a pretty good chance it is on video. My feel, coverage is being denied (if it is in fact and not just held up) because it does not appear to be a case of sect defense.

https://lawofselfdefense.com/self-defense-or-not-who-decides/

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Yaaa I would wait till both sides come out. Most of the time the Defendant doesn’t comment on active cases.
So don’t get to freaky about it till all comes out in court. :+1:

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I don’t know anything about her case other than what I read here, but if you didn’t break the law in your actions you are covered by USCCA. IMO there are too many unknowns concerning her case for us to draw any conclusions. I will say the buying a firearm before custody transfer, claims of her being the aggressor in the relationship, and him filing for custody don’t look good from the outside. As @BRUCE26 said, we don’t know both sides or what actually happened leading up to the discharge of the firearm. So, speculation doesn’t do much aside from make you think about something that may not be the case. No business has an obligation to comment on an ongoing case, and often won’t if defendant.

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Interesting comments section reading… Apparently the author works for a USCCA competitor, which if the defendent was with, would not have covered this event at all… if I’m reading the author’s response correctly.

He then mentions that USCCA doesn’t mention a domestic violence restriction… However, I don’t know if that’s relevant to the defendant for not receiving the full $150,000 for legal fees.

I haven’t vetted the source, but here is a more current news article related to the situation (dated Aug, 5, 2020): Hearing in Kayla Giles’ criminal case continued until early November

From reading this, I infer that the witholding of additional defense funding is not related to any type of domestic violence restriction the article in the OP mentions.

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Honestly this is the first I hear of it. I’m not going to judge until all the facts are out. This could be an isolated case and I’m sure the USCCA can defend these allegations.

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I will read the article and share an opinion afterwards. Be blessed.

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There has to be a reason board members resign and go work for competitors but who am I to judge. Sometimes I feel that when a company like the USCCA is so successful that people just want to knock them down. Allegations can be brought out by anyone wether they are true or false has not been determined yet. I for one am not going to drop my membership over unsubstantiated rumors or allegations. You have to keep an open mind, get the facts before judging. It’s like the attacks on the NRA, if the higher ups were doing DIRT let them pay the price, they shouldn’t be dismantled due to others foolish actions. Let the chips fall where they may and we pray that the USCCA be exonerated.

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I agree with you

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I’m going to go ahead and read that right now

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A lot of good information in that article. One thing that stuck out to me is that her original attorney withdrew, suggesting that he didnt like the facts of the case for his client. So again, as I stated above, withholding judgement till more information is available. Also, keep in mind how we discuss issues such as disparity of force and the supposed justification for self defense is that he called her a B@%$^#.

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I know this topic was broached earlier, USCCA Sued in Federal Court? Oct '19. I believe there was another thread, too, but I could not find it in my search. However, it is not a self-defense case, and the USCCA coverage does not cover criminal acts.

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I think it demonstrates great prudence on the part of the USCCA to not discuss an active legal case. If this were a commonplace occurrence, I think it would be cause for concern. However it appears to be a one-off. In addition, while Mr. Bracca certainly appears to be a decent and humble man asking reasonable questions, he certainly didn’t miss an opportunity to insert a commercial for his company in the middle of the article.

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:joy::performing_arts: You’re right on that 1 paul. I couldn’t argue with you on that… you’re right on point

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