What do you mean by “The Grateful Dead” and please don’t tell me its close to what I just read because that is mean, bro!
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“The Grateful Dead”
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A musical group that demonstrated the ability to influence people to give up everything they’d known and done before to become followers of the band creating new lifestyles based upon the desire to follow - the - band to every performance they could attend.
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That’s what I read as well as some other mean stuff, but people camp here during Mardi-Gras too while bringing their camper for the two Saturdays in February.
Ours is not like New Orleans, but people love drinking,
Therefore, they could be from here and wanted a guaranteed spot.
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oh, by the way Randall, I don’t envy you out in the Arctic weather. Please double up on your cold layers for when you leave! Wind chill is the killer.
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It’s 46 degrees where @Randall318… that’s better than the 13 we have! 
I think we all need a range field trip to somewhere warm.
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C’mon down to Florida!
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It just became winter here too!
46 degrees to me is like 13 to you
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I laugh at the insane hatred Democrats have for President Trump while at the same time ignoring Clintons crimes and Obama’s corruption of the FBI, DOJ & CIA. I will probably laugh myself to death when DJT is reelected next November.
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Agreed, but I think @CHRIS4 is no party affliction (independent).
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I wasn’t aiming at Chris. I respect his views even if they differ from mine. Somehow we have to return to meeting each other half way. We are not getting anywhere with the current political situation. Question is, are we goim6to become civil again or keep up the take no prisoners approach.
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oh, I think I understand, I used to hang out with some red shirts back in my misspent youth in the California gold country. The drinking folk weren’t happy until they were moanin in their lees… Camping was a way to extend the festivities well through 3 afternoons. Still; there were very few 32 degree nights in those days. But, snorkle diving along the Northern California coast for abalone on other weekends; that was bad enough to kick seals out of the water to huddle next to our beach campfires.
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Michael, Randall, I am in no way threatened by the fact of the moment. And through many years of hard knocks have been on the ‘wrong’ side of the electorate’s direction. (keyboard hiccup… to continue…)
I can’t speak to the scale of the Clintons or Obama’s abuse of our morals, political party brinkmanship, or theft of resources. Mostly because I was too busy living a life that had many more important issues that needed to be attended to. Not the least of which was maintaining the communications links which made all these other things possible around the world. Then, after family, I might have had some odd interest in the way the economy was trending, the fact we kept going places we thought needed a world’s police force only we could provide. …usually there because of some stupidity WE did in the decades before, before we realized the world is actually a pretty small place when there are lots of people living on it.
So, when all of the pressures of life have gone and I’m able to receive the full import of the commercial media, the social media sphere of direct echo chambers, and the continuing devolution of our people into two parties which are nearly polar opposites (except on 99% of the same things), I get a chance to see a bit more clearly - AS AN OUTSIDER.
Why outsider you might ask? Because I’m not a player inside the beltway of DC. Because I’m not a player in any one of the top ten cities/metro population centers, nor rural ag communities everywhere else. So I don’t have fixed regional requirements of how the world must be to support me and mine… I just have me.
And I wonder how, a Christian Community can look toward an avowed hedonist and say: yes, he’s my hero! He’s my depth of understanding of the way of Christ.
I wonder how the largest percentage of the population can look at a 1/2 a percenter (if you can believe him before he shows his cards) and say, Yes! HE knows exactly how it feels to be me with the money I earn, the bills I pay, the medical fees I can’t afford, and the retirement I may not have.
I have to ask myself how the other rich cats who run the ships of industry can say, Yes! HE’s MY HERO! because he knows precisely how to Captain a company of 100’s of thousands of employees, he’s studied the process of supply and logistics and can guide the largest economy in the world. And even more, he’s a Nobel laureate in the sciences and arts of human management and it’s interaction with the environment we must maintain for our children’s future.
And I realize, whatever I can say doesn’t matter a wit …unless there is at least one other person in the world who thinks the way I do and wonders - If now this? What is truly left?
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One of the things that keep me coming back to this forum is the respect with which we treat each other, even - or especially - when we have different opinions.
@CHRIS4 - I find myself in much the same position as you - an outsider. However, my faith brings me to a position well right of yours. In that light, I found one of your statements to be very interesting –
Yes, I voted for Trump. I never saw him as a hero nor as anyone other than he has played himself in public over the decades. I have had some people ask me directly, “how in good conscience could you vote for him?” It was actually pretty simple. While he was nowhere near my top choice in the Republican primary, of those candidates remaining in the general election, his likely form of presidency was the one I could live with.
I never for a moment thought he would ever understand the struggles of those like me. For most politicians, by the time they have amassed the fortune and the notoriety to be electable to the office of President, that ship has long ago sailed.
The only time I voted for a presidential candidate who I firmly believed was the best person to lead the country at that time, was Reagan’s second term. The rest of the elections (going back to 1976) have been a series of “well x is better than y.”
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Chris in not sure I follow your logic but I respect you. As veterans we stick together.
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Thanks OldGnome, I know the feeling well. x over y except when z…
Michael the part you don’t get is the part I tucker out over trying to present complete and whole. I haven’t learned to build the “Magnum Opus” one day at a time. I’m continually amazed, meeting and knowing those who can and do.
Cheers
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In addressing the original question: "Is civil war inevitable or avoidable?"I would point to this recent speech by AG Barr. When one party, supported by it’s own voters, acts against the Constitution, then I would say war is inevitable. Sad to say for sure
Attorney General Barr accuses the left of systemic ‘sabotage’ of Trump administration
Just an addendum. Now the left is calling for AG Barr to be impeached because he dared to exercise his 1st amendment right to free speech. If you dont think the Constitution is under attack you must be living on another planet.
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DrudgeReportFeed/~3/5o8bgbdxHIk/
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Keep your powder dry, boys…
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Civil War, is it inevitable or avoidable?
Inevitable !!!
Like to answer that QUESTION… Many of us have had much history on this subject and any person, no matter what color they are, are human beings, with a hearts and a souls. Today they have rights and have served Honorably in many wars and died for their country.
I believe that the Civil War was Inevitable and many human beings died to help set people free and
THE CONSTITUTION OF THE United States is theirs too… Being colored is a priceless gift and it come from GOD. People are individuals not a colored mistake. The BLACKS fought bravely in many wars flawlessly and very brave.
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While I dont disagree with anything you said, I believe this topic is wither or not you think ANOTHER civil war is inevitable or avoidable at this point in time in relationship to what is going on with our government today.
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