Forgive me if I’m not current on this state of affairs with magazine capacity and CCW, but heck, in CA and Los Angeles City/County, it’s often changing and thus confusing.
So my questions here as a USCCA member:
Given my CCW certificate states a given Glock and has no stipulation on magazine capacity, may one every-day carry a Glock 15-rd magazine legally (assume a legally-purchased “Freedom Week” magazine, of course).
If the above is legal to EDC, will carrying said magazine affect charges or incite deeper scrutiny should the CCW firearm be used in actual self-defense use (assume a “good” and “proper” use in SD, of course).
What is USCCA’s stance on the use of such a “high capacity” magazine in representing we members in a self-defense case? Does the magazine change anything, real or perceived, as far as USCCA’s stance on the legal defense and ability to litigate effectively to garner full exoneration in a self-defense case?
Again, sorry if this has been covered, but I did do an internet search and didn’t find clear answers that apply for 2025, especially with regard to California and the City of Lost Angeles. Thanks in advance!
Welcome to the community. It is my opinion that as long as you are doing everything legal( I am not familiar with laws in California), you are good to go. Hope this helps.
#2 It all depends on the judge and you lawyer and any experts at your trial if it goes to that.
#3 As a member of USCCA and a second amendment supporter I don’t see how, how many rounds you have in your magazine changes anything. Good luck G-d bless.
Start with this, you will get your questions answered.
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Thanks for your reply! I’ve been a long-time shooting enthusiast, but am relatively new as a CCW-certified guy, and have been a USCCA member for coming on one year …so yeah, I’m new around here and I appreciate the welcome!
The gist of my questions are for both legal concerns if I ever have to utilize –perish the thought!– my firearm in SD as clearly I don’t want to heap even more scrutiny onto an already dire matter. But also ask my questions in terms of “perception” and how that may potentially sway a DA and/or judgment against me even if said “hi-cap” magazine is wholly within the letter of the law. As many know and have read, California (and most certainly the City of Los Angeles) is openly hostile to anything 2nd Amendment, so I am looking for clarification, particularly currently as the laws continually change.
Anyone else have insight or can shed light? …I can’t possibly be the only one unsure here.
Yeah I get it and it is all good. The thing is there are no definitive answers. My perception is to tell you to let your conscience be you guide. I would give that advice to anyone in any situation.
@EDWARD354 Welcome to the community! First of all, I’m not a Lawyer, but here’s my take, if it makes any sense. In reading your post, and being much AWARE of the 10-rd magazine LAW, was there a clause in there somewhere that if so and so GLOCK 15-rd mag was purchased at such and such time LEGALLY and NOT MODIFIED (SWITCH) was the 15-rd mag exempt from the new 10-rd mag LAW? If so, BUT WHAT ARE THE CONDITONS placed for those with the exempted allowed to LEGALLY keep their 15-rd mags. They’re ok to use at your sporting shooting events, going out to the firing range, maybe for self-defense INSIDE OF YOUR HOME/PROPERTY! NOW, as an EDC, YOU WILL BE WALKING A VERY FINE LINE carrying a GLOCK with a 15-rd mag (LEGALLY because your MAG is EXEMPT) and something happens and a self-defense occurs (DID YOU READ THE FINE PRINT OF THE NEW 10-rd LAW?) THE LAW IS TRICKY and SO IS THE DA (them smart cheaters) THEY WILL BURN YOU AT THE STAKES!!! It’s a catch 22, Dammed if you do, and dammed if you don’t! Look, criminals don’t follow the law, BUT law-abiding gunowners MUST FOLLOW THE LAW and THAT’S WHAT A DA/JUDGE LOOKS FOR, to see if YOU FOLLOW THE LAW as a law-abiding gunowner and if the SELF-DEFENSE CASE is JUSTIFIED regardless of if the criminal with a long rap sheet, posing a deadly threat and LOST the GUNFIGHT YOU (the last man standing) and a GOOD SELF-DEFENSE CASE/witnesses/video, THE DA AWAYS HAS AN ANGLE TO WIN “HIS” CASE for the poor DEAD victim. PLEASE STAY ON THE SAFE SIDE OF THE LAW! BUY a 10-rd mag and spare mag to carry LEGALLY along with your LEGAL CCW when you’re out in public, follow the LAW like everyone else with the 10-rd MAGS. Believe me, the first thing that DA will TARGET is THAT HIGH CAPACITY (legal or not) MAGAZINE. Use the 15-rd mag for the other purposes BUT NOT FOR EDC IN YOUR UNCONSTITUTIONAL STATE OF CALIFORNIA. Don’t jeopardize your FREEDOM. A DA prosecuting you DOES NOT believe in a “good” and “proper” use in SD. HE WILL use the 10-rd mag law and use the ILLEGAL HIGH CAPACITY BANNED MAGAZINE against you RIGHT OFF THE BAT (regardless of if the 15-rd mag is legal/exempt) it’s more of if YOU FOLLOWED THE LAW and the 10-rd magazine LAW WAS COMPLIED WITH and THAT will determine the case even if the self-defense case is strong. Sometimes you gotta take a little, but sometimes you gotta give a little too. Get yourself 10-rd mag for your Glock if you’re going to EDC it. Here in NM we faced the same $#!T, but so far OUR HIGH CAP MAGS ARE still in the clear (kind of sort of, for NOW) I still carry my Sig P320 17-rd mags, BUT I do have 10-rd mags though. Stay safe out there.
Thanks for the response! Detailed and thoughtfully composed, as well as a “got yer back” tone: I appreciate that, man!
Fwiw, I hear you and harbor the same “CYA” thoughts on carrying the 10-rd if only to stave off whatever further scrutiny an aggressive/hostile DA may raise. And as you know in NM, we’ve got those aplenty here, especially in LA County! My post was looking for “legal clarification” but like so many things, the practicalaction is the smarter tac than whatever technical/legal answer may provide.
Be well all! And you folks in your free states, don’t forget us in the fight as we’re alltogether against this incessant onslaught on our freedoms! Be vigilant and be active, even for us, lol! Glad to be here as a new poster to the forum!
First of all, I’m not a Lawyer, but here’s my take, if it makes any sense. In reading your post, and being much AWARE of the 10-rd magazine LAW, was there a clause in there somewhere that if so and so GLOCK 15-rd mag was purchased at such and such time LEGALLY and NOT MODIFIED (SWITCH) was the 15-rd mag exempt from the new 10-rd mag LAW? If so, 
BUT 
WHAT ARE THE CONDITONS placed for those with the exempted allowed to LEGALLY keep their 15-rd mags. They’re ok to use at your sporting shooting events, going out to the firing range, maybe for self-defense INSIDE OF YOUR HOME/PROPERTY! NOW, as an EDC, YOU WILL BE WALKING A VERY FINE LINE carrying a GLOCK with a 15-rd mag (LEGALLY because your MAG is EXEMPT) and something happens and a self-defense occurs (DID YOU READ THE FINE PRINT OF THE NEW 10-rd LAW?) THE LAW IS TRICKY and SO IS THE DA 
(them smart cheaters) THEY WILL BURN YOU AT THE STAKES!!! It’s a catch 22, Dammed if you do, and dammed if you don’t! Look, criminals don’t follow the law, BUT law-abiding gunowners MUST FOLLOW THE LAW and THAT’S WHAT A DA/JUDGE LOOKS FOR, to see if 
YOU FOLLOW THE LAW 
as a law-abiding gunowner and if the SELF-DEFENSE CASE is JUSTIFIED regardless of if the criminal with a long rap sheet, posing a deadly threat and LOST the GUNFIGHT 
DEAD victim. PLEASE STAY ON THE SAFE SIDE OF THE LAW! BUY a 10-rd mag and spare mag to carry LEGALLY along with your LEGAL CCW when you’re out in public, follow the LAW like everyone else with the 10-rd MAGS. Believe me, the first thing that DA will TARGET is THAT HIGH CAPACITY (legal or not) MAGAZINE. Use the 15-rd mag for the other purposes BUT NOT FOR EDC IN YOUR UNCONSTITUTIONAL STATE OF CALIFORNIA. Don’t jeopardize your FREEDOM. A DA prosecuting you DOES NOT believe in a “good” and “proper” use in SD. HE WILL use the 10-rd mag law and use the ILLEGAL HIGH CAPACITY BANNED MAGAZINE against you RIGHT OFF THE BAT (regardless of if the 15-rd mag is legal/exempt) it’s more of if 
(kind of sort of, for NOW) 
I still carry my Sig P320 17-rd mags, BUT I do have 10-rd mags though. Stay safe out there.