I heard in the news that BLM are blocking hospital ER rooms so police can’t get medical help. If you are at the hospital and this happens are you justified to use deadly force to help get the police medical help, saving their live?
In most states if the police command your assistance you are required to help. But no, I wouldn’t advise just blasting your way through the crowd. Ther are also too many factors to give a one size fits all answer.
How big is the crowd?
How urgent is the emergency?
Are there more entrances?
Is there A ambulance port/ garage door access?
Are they blocking you at the road? Door?
Are they using chains? Have they tied themselves together?
Assuming its legal in your area you could use OC and or a Baton to move through a crowd.
If your only tool is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail. Work on adding some tools to your toolbox.
Not in California anymore. Our super “woke” politicians are so anti-police they just changed that law.
Thats mildly infuriating. But its just one of the thousands of reasons I will never consider working in or moving to California.
Here in Indiana you are justified in using deadly force in the defense of others. I think this BLM movement has gotten way out of hand. When they are putting LE lives in danger they need to declare them as domestic terrorist. I think they have more options to fight them. All this rioting and looting does not help the cause.
I hate to ask this, but how much more of this are we going to take, before someone does start opening up on a crowd! We all know it’s getting close!
If we lose the election, welcome to the new world. That’s not one I’m prepared to live in. They put down rabid dogs, don’t they? What are we waiting for. What happens when they start blocking your grocery stores? Mail delivery, food deliver services, EMS?
So, tell me after three days, weeks or months of them blocking you from feeding your family, will you be prepared to shoot into the crowds? Or are you prepared to starve and look your child in the eyes and explain to them, that their life doesn’t matter, or do you simply “surrender”?
Unfortunately, for those of us who were born, raised, and built our lives here in CA, its not an easy option.
There are many of us like that here and we need to continue to speak up, vote for the right candidates, and put the pressure on our elected officials.
With the election in 50 days it will be everyone’s responsibility to vote out the democrats. It’s gotten to the point all they care about is voting against the president no matter what it does to the country.
Don’t think things are going to be that easy, we gave the dog the bone. How hard do you think it will be to take it back, the longer he owns it?
If we win, the war will be immediately, if they win it will be a slow death and we’ll be fighting over that dogs bone, if we are not already eating dog! If this is their meaning of unity, gathering around the last rat for a meal and calling it “Thanksgiving”, not interested!
I think we have gotten away from the original post. Lol. I do think if I was at the hospital when a LE officer was coming in to get his life saved I think we all need to help get him there. Ether driving threw the crowd or opening fire. I think at some time there is going to be a battle ground here in the States . I think that’s what they are wanting. It will be a second civil war. I do think the end times are near. Just saying.
Seriously, I don’t care how many tools are in my box, you start moving through an angry crowd of 500 psychos blocking a hospital, that’s like going up against only 2 grizzly bears with a straw and some spit balls. People can’t move through crowds like that when they are in their cars! If you want to move through that crowd with your trusty baton and some spray, you going to end up like Reginald Denny, lying on your back with a brick in your head. You guys sound sorta young, this is an insurrection, treason, anarchy, war for lack of a better word. Voting will be this years joke of the century!
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Is this story correct? I have to wonder how it could be. I don’t mean to question anybody here I’m just in disbelief. How would that not be HIGHLY illegal, any where, any time???
Yeah, hence the main point of my original reply that tgere are too many variables to speak to one specific tactic.
This post is in refernce to the hospital last Night in LA. The group was no more than a dozen or so based on all accounts I saw. They were also on foot near the street & away from the door.
I may habe been born in '93, but I know enough about our countries troubled past with riots and Reginald Denny. Thats a situation where you don’t stop the car / truck.
To the original question: If your or someone in your vehicle is dieing and people are purpsely blocking your access to the ER, you gotta do what you gotta do. Drive your Truck through the garage door of the ambulance port if you need to. Injured officers being transported in my area have at minimum a 2-3 squad escort. Those officers will get the job done, no need to inject yourself into that situation unless they ask for it.
Some reports are overblown. There was a group outside the hospital trying to get in to " disrupt the hospital Infrastructure" yelling " I hope they die" referring to the 2 Deputys that were shot. The officers were already there by the time they arrived. Other ambulance were having g a difficult time getting through. Hospital was already on lockdown.
BLM promised to “shut sh%^ down”, and they are delivering.
If Repubs don’t use this for political ads, they are idiots.
Whooooo @Scott52 You made it da whole year.
Absolutely 100% agree, however we’ve seen recently 12 turn into 112, turn into 300, anything out of the ordinary needs to be taken down as fast as possible, right now I don’t care what type of force is needed. It needs to be dealt with immediately if not sooner or it will become a trend and spiral. We put down dogs when they bite a human, exactly, why is that??? Because ambushing cops is going to become a sport.
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Will have to re-post, bad copy.