just hope he doesen’t get a liberal jury
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Houston Texas. Better odds than Austin…
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Hopefully when they watch the video over and over, they will start to whisper to the community that, what the dead guy did, will get you dead. Don’t try armed robbery it could be detrimental to your health!
We may have put the defender in jail, but watch your six!
Good guys are angry! They don’t like when you rob them!
I’m also equal opportunity, wait till women start defending themselves!
Can’t wait to hear the media spin on that! My body, my rights?
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Not much.
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This is true, a wounded animal can be even more dangerous.
The legal question is whether or not the robber was still a threat when he was 1) walking away 2) lying on the floor with multiple gunshot wounds. The next steps that our shooter made could determine whether or not a jury needs to answer those questions. Personally, I think he should have stayed at the scene and told the responding officers that he would answer questions after speaking with an attorney. The attorney he gets to help him articulate this scenario could mean the difference between a walking free, enduring a costly court battle, or spending a long time in prison, especially since there are multiple witnesses and a video. Expect a prosecutor to go frame by frame, giving the jurors hours to make decisions that our shooter only had seconds to make in real time.
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I have watched the video a few times.
If I was the “good guy”, I believe I would have put the 4 rounds in the perps back and stopped there. I would have gotten the perp’s weapon away from him, and called 911 in case no one else did.
Most likely I would not render aid to the perp but make sure everybody else was ok.
I can understand the thinking behind the shots while the perp was on the ground, and the execution to the head but would never consider doing that myself.
To me that seemed an emotional response, but goes too far IMHO.
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I’m pretty sure that in my county, even one shot to the robber’s back would have won me a free stay in the county jail pending my first court hearing.
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Even if he gets off he will probably face a civil suit although from the looks of his truck they may not find a lawyer willing to take the case.
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Given the events, how were you able to dismiss the fact that he had and used a firearm? How were you able to dismiss that even while down still didn’t possess the firearm? The video is grainy, so how could judgment in the regard that you’ve addressed be quantifiable? And yes, let’s do address the alleged headshot; “was it, in fact, a headshot? Given the same footage can you clearly delineate it was a headshot?” Were the actions by the defender excessive? What would we have done differently, and are you absolutely certain of your position in the matter? My inquiring mind would like to know.
The only thing that gives me pause is the fact that the defender left the scene. It prompts questions around the legality of his possession of the firearm, but that’s the only question that I would have based on the video and what is known thus far.
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When I went through my CCW permit training they made it very clear that we only shoot when we are in fear for life or grave bodily harm and only to stop the threat. That is not to say he was in fear of the perp doing this until he could no longer move. I hope I would be more compassionate to the perp. It can’t feel good to take a life.
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And I was trained that, “it’s not for the affable.”
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As has been said countless times here and elsewhere, we don’t shoot to kill. We shoot to stop the threat. So the question is: when did the robber cease to be an imminent threat?
Folks here might disagree and have strong opinions. But if you’re going to unholster your firearm and shoot someone in the back, just be cognizant that the 12 people on your jury might have a different opinion than you.
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Maybe they still believe in late term abortions?
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As well, they might all agree that, by any means necessary “stop” that threat. This is not property; its human life being threatened by someone that obviously does not care about human life. Therefore, it called for righteous action. “righteous” not in the religious sense, but in the right and complete sense.
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That is why I think we all follow our own conscience on this.
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Yeah, I agree only with the fact that it’s an afterthought. Conscience is a tricky thing. What really weighs on it?
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I was talking about a lawyer for the plaintiff in a civil suit. No deep pocket.
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I think what it boils down to is not having the mind set to kill. My love for saving lives outweighs my hate for killing. Anybody can choose the wrong path in life. I believe those paths can change regardless of the facts. There’re no good answers only good questions.
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Yet you carry for self-defense? A firearm is a lethal weapon.
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