Wi-Fi Gun Detection System Another Liberty-Eroding Boondoggle

What do you think would be a better deterrent against a school shooter? This or an AI-enhanced Wi-Fi system? (FASTERSavesLives/Facebook)

“New gun-detection system uses Wi-Fi to sense concealed weapons,” Statescoop reported Wednesday. “Chartiers Valley School District, near Pittsburgh, is the first to deploy a new technology that relies on Wi-Fi signals and AI to detect firearms hidden in bags, under clothes or in other hiding places.”

“The technology is being installed across the district’s four school buildings: two elementary schools, one middle school and one high school,” the report notes. “The district plans to monitor two entrances per building, for a total of eight devices.”

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What could go wrong?

Start with privacy concerns. And while the public has pretty much accepted schools, as legally-mandated “gun-free zones,” with special scrutiny often akin to airport TSA checkpoints, it’s not hard to imagine such surveillance becoming “normalized” in Blue City “sensitive areas” by Democrat administrations that won’t let minor impediments like the Fourth Amendment get in the way of their compulsive obsession to eviscerate the Second.

Then there’s the matter of false alarms with potentially deadly consequences for students, as happened just last month.

“Police officers swarmed a 16-year-old high school student last week after an artificial intelligence (AI) gun detection system mistakenly flagged his bag of chips as a firearm, leaving officials and students shaken,” Fox News reported.

As AmmoLand readers have seen time and again, there’s a lot of garbage in/garbage out with AI, and trusting it with life-and-death decisions is not the panacea those politically and financially motivated to promote it would have us believe.

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For starters, there are physical constraints of the system, most obviously due to the limited number of detection devices that cannot cover every possible means of entrance into the building—think loading docks for classrooml, office, and cafeteria supplies, furniture, and equipment, or windows that an enterprising would-be school shooter could exploit if s/he wanted to badly enough. Or an armed and determined assailant could just blow through the checkpoint.

And wifi signals can be jammed.

But that would be illegal, and a serious violation of federal law, some may counter.

Shooting up schools isn’t?

As the adage goes, “Foolproof systems do not take into account the ingenuity of fools.”

None of this is to say that technology can’t be used to help harden targets and that such systems cannot play a role in helping that to happen. The cautions are against over relying on technology and misapplying it to the detriment of freedom. That and deliberately overlooking what works.

Let’s not forget the reason all of this is a priority in the first place: School safety in an era when certain aberrant elements of society manifest a fixated evil response to their perceived grievances: slaughtering defenseless innocents. As long as they have reason to believe they can succeed they will continue to try.

And the best way to keep killers from succeeding is by being able to stop them.

How receptive do you think the decision makers at the Chartiers Valley School District would be to a multi-tiered approach to school safety that would include introducing a pilot program like Faculty/Administrator Safety Training & Emergency Response (FASTER)?

Armed schools staff do not replace Law Enforcement/EMTs.

They add one additional layer to your school’s existing safety and security plan.

They are first responders right at the point of attack.

Their role is to protect your kids and provide critical aid until outside professionals can arrive.

They’re not allowed to do this in Pennsylvania, where in 2019, Democrat Gov. Tom Wolfe signed a law that “ensures that teachers cannot be armed in schools.” Still, even allowing armed private security contractors was too much for an indignant David Hogg, CeaseFirePA, the Education Law Center, and Democrat apparatchik teachers unions, all joined in their commitment that when seconds count, someone capable of stopping a monster from having his bloody fill of precious, terrified, and agonized children will be nowhere around.

No AI-enhanced Wi-Fi system will prevent that, and anyone who argues otherwise is an incentivized liar.

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I didn’t understand how the “Wi-Fi Gun Detection System” works.

Does it use Wi-Fi to communicate hits from remote metal detectors? Or is it detecting a change in Wi-Fi transmission strength between a Wi-Fi transmitter and receiver installed at an entrance? Or maybe some other operational scheme?

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The “Wi-Fi Gun Detection System” uses ordinary Wi-Fi signals and artificial intelligence (AI) to detect concealed firearms and other dangerous objects without physical screening

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How It Works

  1. Signal Transmission: The system uses a pair of devices with multiple antennas (typically two or three) to transmit and receive standard Wi-Fi signals, creating a “virtual fence” or scan area. It does not typically use an existing internet connectivity signal, but a dedicated detection signal.

  2. Signal Interaction and Data Collection: As people and their belongings pass through the coverage area, the Wi-Fi signals penetrate bags and interact with the objects inside. Different materials, particularly metals and liquids (common components in weapons and explosives), absorb, refract, or reflect these signals in measurable ways. The system specifically collects “channel state information” (CSI), which describes how the signal propagates and changes after interacting with the objects.

  3. AI Analysis: The collected data is analyzed in real-time by an AI and machine learning model. This software has been trained on thousands of images and data points of various dangerous and harmless objects in different positions and bag types. This allows it to:

    • Distinguish Materials: Determine if a concealed object is metal or liquid.

    • Estimate Risk: Assess the object’s size and shape (e.g., distinguishing a gun from a laptop or a nail file) and estimate the volume of liquids.

    • Reduce False Alarms: The system is designed to ignore common items like phones or keys and only flag high-risk objects, which helps reduce false alarms.

  4. Alerts and Response: If a potential weapon is identified with a high degree of confidence, the system can trigger an instant alert to security personnel or law enforcement, providing information about the location and type of threat, allowing for a proactive response.

This technology is a low-cost, less intrusive alternative to traditional metal detectors and X-ray scanners, and can be easily integrated into existing Wi-Fi networks in public places such as schools, stadiums, and museums.

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This is independent system hooked to existing WiFi access points.

It doesn’t work with every access points, but most of new products accept AI systems to be incorporated with them.
So WiFi infrastructure is used as a base for a new system.

Here’s the link to company who made this system:

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Its AI, what could go wrong with AI?

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beta testing in schools :roll_eyes:

All I see is infringement

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Sounds like Faraday backpacks are going to get popular.

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So, basically we are looking at an RF field with AI reading the results. Any metal passing through the RF field distorts the field. AI will try to determine if that distortion matches a pattern for a weapon.

As mentioned, a Faraday shield inside of a backpack could easily defeat the system. Excessive false positive readings would also render the system useless. It’s human nature to ignore the alarm after a few false alarms in a short period.

Armed guards and metal detectors at the entrance seem to be a better solution, but one most schools are not willing to implement.

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Who’$ paying for it?

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AI—Is still being tested, Many Flaws
'Lectric Cars----HARD FAIL right now
It may be the wave of the future but when yer damn BATTERIES
need replacing you are well and truly phucked! ($20-40,000 Nice!)
Tesla Toasters (Trucks are worth way less than what they were last year.

These are just (2) of the MANY 'Demon’cratic ‘Revisions’ they want to remake AMERICA into the CCP. The ‘PROVEN’ Metal Detector’s were only as good as the ‘OPERATOR’ (HUMAN) manning the system.
They had a Self driving car run over a beloved Cat in some U.S.City—
ALL THIS ‘TECH’ is great----Keep Testing! right now we’re not there
'Retinal Scans for the TSA?----Well, like I said above…
I wouldn’t trust the TSA to catch Bin Obummer if they all had his Picture I.D.

Somebody (or a BUNCH of Somebodies are getting Monopoly Soros bucks to push this Bullshite through!—Like maybe Bill Gates—who’s the Corporation? Who’s the MONEY behind this latest
‘SINK HOLE’? Find that you get the Answers…

The ONLY way you stop a Bad Guy? Is a GOOD GUY with a Friggin’ GUN!
Why isn’t that lesson learned yet? Because they WANT Carnage! Pictures of DEAD CHIL’ren so they can Implement 'TOTAL DISARMAMENT of WE THE PEOPLE!

AI, Retinal scans, Metal detectors etc can’t beat a trained set of eyes, They can’t STOP A THREAT (even if the detected one!)
These DEMON’S run the same damn PLAYBOOK for Everything and hat is why they have a less than 20% APPROVAL RATING…

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