The Solution to the Problem of School Attacks

“It was the the latest among dozens of school shootings across the U.S. in recent years, including especially deadly ones in Newtown, Connecticut, Parkland, Florida, and Uvalde, Texas. The classroom killings have set off fervent debates about gun control and frayed the nerves of parents whose children are growing up accustomed to active shooter drills in classrooms. But they have done little to move the needle on national gun laws.

It ALWAYS comes to this, Laws, We NEED MORE Laws!!
How well did all of the existing LAWS work this time, or last time, or the time before that? Not to mention, look at how fast the Resource Cops got to this kid and got him stopped. Laws didn’t stop this kid, the cops did. Maybe we should focus on that.

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Well as i remember when i went to school in the middle year,s some students took rifles and shotguns to school and if you had a pickup it had a rifle rack in the rear window with a gun in it when we got off the school bus they put all the guns in the back of the buss and they never locked the buss door and must often never closed the door the pickups had the windows down and never locked, we did not have any school shooting then or guns stolen them days, so as i see it we have a social problem not a gun problem, more guns less idiouts may be the solution.

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My retirement job is working for a school district in Texas we have a LEO at every campus during school hours and after hour events along with other safety measures that are not for public knowledge.

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Metal Detectors.

Limited/restricted and secure entryways with security glass.

A good guy/gal with a gun to stop a bad guy/gal with a gun.

My humble opinion but I think these are a good place to start and that every school district’s budget should include the above.

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The other thing we didn’t have was video games and cell phones. There is to much time on the inside and not enough time playing outside anymore when the kids are young. I was never inside the house anytime of the year, you just dressed for the weather.

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Comprehensive Plan to Increase Security at Public Schools Across the United States

Objective: Enhance the safety and security of students, staff, and school premises through a multifaceted approach that includes physical security measures, mental health support, emergency preparedness, community involvement, and collaboration with law enforcement.

1. Improved Physical Security Measures

1.1 Controlled Access Points

  • Implementation: Secure all entry points with locked doors, gates, and monitored access.
  • Technology: Use keycard entry systems, biometric scanners, and visitor management systems.
  • Personnel: Train security staff to manage and monitor access points effectively.

1.2 Surveillance Systems

  • Installation: Deploy high-definition CCTV cameras covering all key areas, including entrances, hallways, classrooms, and common areas.
  • Monitoring: Establish a centralized monitoring station manned by trained personnel.
  • Maintenance: Regularly check and maintain the surveillance equipment to ensure functionality.

1.3 Metal Detectors

  • Deployment: Install metal detectors at main entry points.
  • Operation: Train security personnel to operate metal detectors and conduct screenings efficiently.
  • Random Checks: Conduct random checks to maintain an element of unpredictability.

2. Emergency Preparedness and Response Training

2.1 Regular Drills

  • Types of Drills: Conduct lockdown, evacuation, and active shooter drills regularly.
  • Involvement: Ensure all students, staff, and faculty participate in these drills.
  • Evaluation: Review and assess the effectiveness of drills, making improvements as necessary.

2.2 Crisis Intervention Teams

  • Formation: Establish teams consisting of school counselors, psychologists, and trained security personnel.
  • Training: Provide specialized training in crisis intervention and de-escalation techniques.
  • Activation: Develop protocols for the activation and deployment of crisis intervention teams during emergencies.

3. Mental Health Support

3.1 Counseling Services

  • Availability: Ensure that every school has access to licensed mental health professionals.
  • Resources: Provide a range of mental health resources, including counseling, therapy, and support groups.
  • Confidentiality: Maintain strict confidentiality to encourage students to seek help.

3.2 Early Identification

  • Training: Educate teachers and staff on recognizing signs of mental health issues.
  • Reporting System: Implement a system for reporting and addressing potential mental health concerns.
  • Intervention: Provide immediate support and intervention for identified students.

4. Enhanced Communication Systems

4.1 Alert Systems

  • Technology: Install mass notification systems that can send alerts via text, email, and loudspeakers.
  • Protocol: Develop clear protocols for when and how to use the alert system.
  • Testing: Regularly test the system to ensure it works effectively in an emergency.

4.2 Anonymous Reporting

  • Hotline: Establish an anonymous tip line for students, parents, and staff to report concerns.
  • App: Develop a mobile app for easy and anonymous reporting.
  • Promotion: Promote the use of these anonymous reporting tools through awareness campaigns.

5. Community and Parental Involvement

5.1 Engagement Programs

  • Workshops: Organize workshops and seminars for parents on school safety and security.
  • Volunteer Programs: Create opportunities for parents to volunteer in school security initiatives.
  • Communication: Maintain open lines of communication between the school and parents regarding safety policies.

5.2 Awareness Campaigns

  • Education: Educate the community about recognizing and reporting suspicious behavior.
  • Outreach: Use social media, newsletters, and community meetings to spread awareness.
  • Partnerships: Partner with local organizations to support awareness campaigns.

6. Collaboration with Law Enforcement

6.1 School Resource Officers

  • Deployment: Assign trained law enforcement officers to schools.
  • Role: Clearly define the role of school resource officers in maintaining safety and building relationships with students.
  • Training: Provide ongoing training for officers on interacting with students and school staff.

6.2 Regular Coordination

  • Meetings: Hold regular meetings between school administrators and local law enforcement to discuss safety plans and updates.
  • Exercises: Conduct joint training exercises and simulations with law enforcement.
  • Support: Ensure law enforcement is familiar with the school layout and emergency plans.

7. Behavioral Assessment and Threat Analysis

7.1 Threat Assessment Teams

  • Formation: Create multidisciplinary teams to assess and respond to potential threats.
  • Training: Train team members in behavioral assessment and threat analysis techniques.
  • Protocols: Develop clear protocols for identifying, assessing, and responding to threats.

7.2 Data Analysis

  • Tools: Use data analytics tools to monitor and identify patterns of behavior that could indicate a potential threat.
  • Review: Regularly review and update assessment protocols based on new information and trends.
  • Confidentiality: Ensure data privacy and confidentiality are maintained.

8. Student and Staff Education

8.1 Training Programs

  • Workshops: Conduct workshops for students and staff on recognizing and responding to threats.
  • Materials: Provide educational materials and resources on school safety and security.
  • Scenarios: Use scenario-based training to prepare students and staff for potential emergencies.

8.2 Promoting a Positive School Climate

  • Inclusion Programs: Implement programs that promote inclusivity and reduce bullying.
  • Support Systems: Establish peer support groups and mentorship programs.
  • Activities: Organize extracurricular activities that foster a sense of community and belonging.

Implementation Timeline

Phase 1: Assessment and Planning (0-6 months)

  • Conduct a comprehensive security assessment of all schools.
  • Form committees to oversee the implementation of the security plan.
  • Develop detailed action plans and timelines for each strategy.

Phase 2: Initial Implementation (6-18 months)

  • Begin the installation of physical security measures.
  • Launch mental health support initiatives and training programs.
  • Establish communication systems and anonymous reporting tools.

Phase 3: Full Implementation (18-36 months)

  • Complete the installation of surveillance systems and controlled access points.
  • Conduct regular emergency drills and training sessions.
  • Fully integrate school resource officers and threat assessment teams.

Phase 4: Continuous Improvement (36 months and beyond)

  • Regularly review and update security protocols and measures.
  • Maintain ongoing training and education programs.
  • Foster continuous collaboration with law enforcement and the community.

Funding and Resources

Federal and State Grants

  • Apply for available federal and state grants dedicated to school safety and security.

Community Partnerships

  • Partner with local businesses and organizations for funding and support.

Budget Allocation

  • Allocate a portion of the school budget specifically for security measures.

Fundraising

  • Organize fundraising events and campaigns to support security initiatives.

Evaluation and Monitoring

Regular Audits

  • Conduct regular audits of security measures to ensure compliance and effectiveness.

Feedback Mechanism

  • Establish a feedback mechanism for students, staff, and parents to report concerns and suggestions.

Continuous Training

  • Provide ongoing training and professional development for security personnel and staff.

Conclusion

Enhancing school security is a complex but necessary endeavor to ensure the safety of students and staff. By implementing a comprehensive plan that includes physical security measures, mental health support, emergency preparedness, community involvement, and collaboration with law enforcement, schools can create a safer environment and reduce the risk of mass shootings and other security threats.


I wrote this plan about two months ago. The problem is, there is no appetite by our government to fund it. They would rather spend millions on failed policy than do what it really needed to secure the schools and keep the kids safe. There are too many unemployed or under-employed people in this country. Not every one is suitable for this job, but I would bet with proper training, we could find enough people to protect the schools. Has anyone ever wondered how a 14-year-old got a rifle into the school in the first place???

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Requirements for Arming Teachers and School Staff: Initial Training and Ongoing Development

Objective: To establish a comprehensive set of requirements and training protocols for arming teachers and other school staff, ensuring the highest standards of safety, competency, and preparedness.


1. Eligibility Requirements

1.1 Voluntary Participation

  • Participation must be voluntary.
  • Staff must express a genuine willingness and commitment to carry and use a firearm responsibly.

1.2 Background Checks

  • Comprehensive background checks, including criminal history, mental health evaluations, and personal references.
  • Periodic re-evaluation to maintain eligibility.

1.3 Psychological Evaluation

  • Mandatory psychological evaluation to ensure mental fitness.
  • Regular follow-up evaluations to monitor ongoing mental health.

1.4 Physical Fitness

  • Must meet basic physical fitness standards to ensure the ability to handle and operate a firearm safely.

2. Initial Training Requirements

2.1 Firearms Safety and Handling

  • Minimum of 40 hours of training focused on firearms safety, handling, and maintenance.
  • Instruction on safe storage and securing of firearms on school property.

2.2 Marksmanship Training

  • Minimum of 40 hours of marksmanship training, including:
    • Basic shooting techniques
    • Advanced shooting drills
    • Accuracy and precision shooting

2.3 Legal and Ethical Use of Force

  • Minimum of 20 hours covering:
    • Laws governing the use of firearms and use of force in educational settings.
    • Ethical considerations and decision-making processes in using lethal force.

2.4 Conflict De-escalation

  • Minimum of 20 hours of training on:
    • Non-violent conflict resolution
    • Verbal de-escalation techniques
    • Crisis intervention

2.5 Scenario-Based Training

  • Minimum of 20 hours of simulation and scenario-based training, including:
    • Active shooter drills
    • Hostage situations
    • High-stress decision-making

2.6 Medical Training

  • Basic first aid and trauma care training.
  • Instruction on handling gunshot wounds and other injuries.

2.7 Certification Exam

  • Comprehensive written and practical exams to assess knowledge and proficiency.
  • Must pass with a score of 90% or higher to be certified.

3. Ongoing Training and Development

3.1 Regular Requalification

  • Quarterly requalification on marksmanship and firearms handling.
  • Annual comprehensive evaluation including all aspects of initial training.

3.2 Continuous Professional Development

  • Minimum of 20 hours of professional development each year, covering:
    • Advances in firearm technology and safety.
    • Updates on legal and ethical standards.
    • Enhanced conflict de-escalation techniques.

3.3 Scenario-Based Refresher Training

  • Bi-annual participation in advanced scenario-based training exercises.
  • Use of evolving and realistic scenarios to maintain preparedness.

3.4 Psychological Support and Monitoring

  • Regular psychological check-ins and access to mental health support.
  • Mandatory annual psychological evaluation.

3.5 Peer Review and Support Groups

  • Formation of peer review groups for ongoing support and experience sharing.
  • Regular meetings to discuss challenges, experiences, and improvements.

3.6 Incident Review and Analysis

  • Post-incident analysis and debriefing for continuous learning and improvement.
  • Use of case studies and real-life incidents to identify best practices and areas for improvement.

4. Administrative and Policy Requirements

4.1 Policy Development

  • Clear, detailed policies outlining the responsibilities and limitations of armed staff.
  • Protocols for the storage, access, and carrying of firearms on school property.

4.2 Insurance and Liability

  • Comprehensive liability insurance to cover potential incidents involving armed staff.
  • Clear guidelines on the legal responsibilities and protections for armed staff.

4.3 Parental and Community Engagement

  • Regular communication with parents and the community about the arming program.
  • Opportunities for input and feedback from stakeholders.

4.4 Coordination with Law Enforcement

  • Close collaboration with local law enforcement for training, support, and response coordination.
  • Clear protocols for armed staff during law enforcement response to incidents.

4.5 Accountability and Oversight

  • Establishment of an oversight committee to monitor and evaluate the arming program.
  • Regular reporting and accountability measures to ensure adherence to standards and policies.

Conclusion

The decision to arm teachers and school staff requires a rigorous and comprehensive approach to ensure safety and effectiveness. By implementing these requirements for initial and ongoing training, as well as clear policies and oversight, schools can create a framework that prioritizes the well-being of students and staff while preparing for potential threats.


And this is the plan I outlined for training and arming teachers and staff.

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Not an @Cpgumby

Every bad guy with a gun who shoots up anything, anyplace, or anywhere has already shown that they don’t give a flying f*ck about the law. There are over 22,000 laws Nationwide on the books that make that act illegal. They didn’t stop or deter bad_guy_99 at all. All more anti gun laws will do is to turn otherwise law abiding citizens into criminals and increase the time interval it would take for a good guy with a gun arriving to stop the bad guy with a gun. End of story.

For as long as there have been bad guys committing violence there has been a corresponding need for a good guy to stop the violence retroactively or proactively. I, personally, prefer my good guy approach. Gun violence and other, more generally, types of violence in a school now is :100: connected to…

  1. The decline of/in the Nuclear Family.

  2. The deprioritization of Mental Health treatment and decreases in Mental Health Treatment Centers.

  3. The desensitizing effect of media saturation on violence in popular culture.

  4. Corresponding with that is the effect of Notoriety that these people will be remembered and memorialized far greater than they would have ever been. How many, right here right now, don’t know who Thomas Crooks is on this board?

It’s a complex problem that has grown out of the times we live in.

I, personally, took a rifle to school, at several different schools between 7 y/o and 16 y/I (I didn’t drop out of school voluntarily, it was due to a variety of abuses at home(s) and got my GED). But I would shoot for my rifle team and or hunted on my way to school or on my way home from school. Heck, I wore a Buck Knife on my belt every day. My first big Shop project was a Big A$$ed Bowie Knife for my teacher.

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Nope! Not Enough Money For That. DEI, inclusion programs cost a lot.

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Who is responsible for the protection of school children? Fire them, they are not doing a good job!

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First, my heart goes out to all those victims, and their families! May God keep them and comfort them with his devine love.
I sincerely believe more “laws” are not the answer, and never will be!
As one of those who had my first shotgun at age 10, and first hunting rifle at age 12, and being born and raised in GA, it’s not the access to firearms that’s the problem. It’s the parenting!!! Our school had many, many people boys and girls that came to school with rifles and shotguns in their vehicles, especially during hunting seasons, and in all my years in those public schools we never had a firearm related incident or accident. But then we had parents doing parenting!

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School shootings could be almost totally eliminated with some basic security measures like metal detectors and a couple more armed officers, or armed teachers. In Florida they have armed officers and metal detectors to get into a school board meeting, but not the schools themselves. It’s insane. Courts have the same. Even county commission meetings get temporary metal detectors set up. The sheriff office has them. The airport. Everyone but the kids. I can’t remember ever seeing a news report of a shooting at a school board meeting, court, sheriff office, etc., so something is working there.

Anyone who declares a gun free zone should be legally required to take every possible step to ensure it really is gun free. Saying it doesn’t make it so.

By the way, the Georgia shooter stopped shooting why? Because a good guy with a gun was about to shoot him.

It makes me think the people in charge don’t really want to stop the shootings.

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I am going to respectfully disagree on metal detectors. My reasons are as follows. Feel free to push back.

According to the US Secret Service (at a conference I attended years back), schools are one of the safest places for children. Statistically they are safer than homes. Why would we put metal detectors in one of the safest places in America?

In 2022, there were 140 people killed in what Education Week called “school shootings.” Of the 140 shot, 100 survived. There were about 55 million kids in public and private schools. Granted, I think the number shot versus enrollment were different school years, so there is a hole in my analysis, but the point remains. A comparatively minuscule number of people are shot at schools every year. Even of the 140, some of those were after hours and didn’t involve students (at least one was a drug deal gone wrong). If I am doing the math correctly, 140 out of 55M is 0.00025%–in other words 0%. It’s that small. This doesn’t include the staff of schools which is going to drive that percentage even lower.

School shootings are highly emotional. If we had an illness with this kind of transmission and survival rate, we wouldn’t be talking about it. I’m not saying we shouldn’t talk about school shootings. But let’s realistically look at the scope of the problem. On average 270 people are struck by lightning every year. Our kids are more likely to get struck by lightning then get shot at school.

Personally, I don’t want to go places where I have to walk through a metal detector. If I had to walk through a metal detector to go to a mall, grocery store, Wal Mart, etc., I’d go somewhere else.

Additionally, I don’t want my kids to have to go through metal detectors to go to school. Not when schools are as safe as outlined above.

What happens when the metal detectors go off? Do we then wand kids? Pat them down? That’s a big nope to me. I don’t want my daughter pulled off to the side and wanded or patted down TSA style. I’d rather accept that tiny risk outlined above or use other methods of prevention.

Where my kid goes to school there are multiple buildings. So do we use metal detectors every time they change classes and go from building to building? It becomes a huge logistical issue that reduces instructional time to implement security measures.

I agree with the good guy with the gun. There were resource officers at the school in GA. They may have reduced fatalities. It’s too early to tell. But they didn’t prevent this altogether. I am not disagreeing that they should be one piece of the puzzle. But again, let’s be realistic about their efficacy.

We can make schools exempt from mass shootings. We truly can. When was the last shooting in a jail or prison? Do that at school and the problem is gone. But I don’t want to turn my kid’s school into a jail.

Just one man’s opinion. Disagreement welcome and invited.

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Don’t give me that C___ about laws. We all know what is right and what is wrong. From 14 to 94 and +. The laws are there, enforce them. No excuses about no fatherly guidance, child abuse, mental problems. No alibis about fathers or mothers loving their children wanting them to have a happy childhood. No excuses about knowing something was wrong but couldn’t tell what. Why is it the child that family, friends and neighbors say that the child is such a loving person who was always smiling and happy one day and becomes a killer the next day and nobody notices any change. Somebody knows and their silence makes them as much a murderer as the kid that pulls the trigger. A loving mother or father becomes an accomplice in murder. That includes the school counselor that cannot reveal his (her) doubts and the police officer or judge that cannot find enough evidence to act. If you don’t have enough proof, use the doubt you do have and THINK! OUR lives depend on YOUR DECISIONS.

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I blame parents for bring up safe place losers. I had access to my fathers guns knew how to use them how to clean them knew where thw ammo was nothing was locked. I was a fat kid got picked on by kids my brother’s and my father ,never thought of shooting up my school or anyone period.

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Norman54
You are correct, in the early seventies as 10th 11th & 12th grades we always had our guns in our cars & trucks, we were raised differently! Most of our fathers served in WWII or Korea, we grew up with guns, taught to use them, & mostly to respect them. Dove hunting with my father was my favorite time each year beginning at the age of 6 using a corn stalk as my gun to practice aiming & leading doves. In high school our principal would walk through the parking lot at times during lunch talking to us about hunting & guns while sometimes asking us to show him our gun. We would pull it out of the back seat to hand it to him. He would question the make, model, gauge. I never saw a loaded gun. He always like holding my gun due to l had the only double gauge, a Levefer Nitro Special manufactured in Ithaca N.Y. Still own it today. I discovered a match to it in a pawn shop 8 years ago & purchased that one to leave a pair to my son. Both guns are bumping around 80 plus years now. I brought my kids up the same way in relations with guns, each of them were stored in an unlocked gun case and they never touched them without asking me first. I never worried about them. Today they are kept in a locked gun safe bolted to the floor in a locked room, my children are grown in different towns. Society declines required me to purchase a gun safe. How times have changed. My theory to the government & gun haters we will never stop these kids killing kids & teachers until we fix the family. By the way my sons 14 year old daughter shot her first deer last January.

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