Yeah, you can convince me that the war on drugs isn’t working. All I’m saying is that the cartels have gotten so powerful that it’ll take a lot more to curb their influence than merely saying we lost the war on drugs.
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Until there is a will, there is no way. Without the political will nothing will be done of any significance. Part of the problem is the left wing sees this as part of the border control issue which they do not want to touch. So cartel mules continue to run illegals across the border along with drugs and everything else. The illegal aliens which are seen by most Americans as innocence just wanting a better life are used as a front shield as well as a money-making proposition for the cartels. I don’t see it as much different than the bad guys in the Middle East hiding in schools the hospitals and mosques to hide in.
In my perfect world, there would be attack helicopters, drones, quick deploy seal type troops, and all the technology that could be brought to bear identifying strongholds regardless of what side of the border. We don’t seem to give it a crap about borders in the Middle East when it’s in our interest so I’m not worried about Mexico’s border. We’re doing them a favor anyway if we were to go in and start methodically eliminating cartel / terrorist strongholds. I’m not talking about just taking down a few leaders. I’m talking about eliminating the entire organization s. I’m sure there would be collateral damage but the cartels don’t give a crap about life anyway so let’s just accommodate them.
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This is an interesting Documentary of the Mexican Cartel. These are some dangerous individuals.
Don’t call them B52s quite yet! Their main strongholds are in the banks and in the gated residences in posh cities in the US. If authorities started small, applied 10% of the effort they had when they went after truckers who protested mandates, to de-bank cartels, to take their wives and kids out of US private schools and mansions, and put them on a comfortable deportation bus. But… you said it, there is no will.
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This has opened my eyes. When you say political will you mean political will of the people to elect politicians that will convince the people that are either hooked on these drugs or don’t care about them to change. As long as the people still want the drugs the cartel will supply them.
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I don’t deny there is a supply side to this problem. When the supply has dwindled making it harder to obtain and those addicted are suffering, I’m all for offering them help and treatment. Sorry but that’s as far as my empathy goes. Choices are made. That is life.
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I forgive you. What can we do about this problem? Do we think politicians can do anything without the support of the people? They won’t get elected.
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You are correct. Without the will of the people press this matter it’s not going to be solved.
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Will of the people goes against the will of corporations, the will of religious charities that receive $$$ grants and donations, etc. We will see who wins.
I can tell you once a community of people forms, the start projecting political will. This is how AOC got elected, or Ilhan Omar got elected. Dont be surprized to see the “First Undocumented-American Representative” in near future.
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The way things are going, I can’t say you’re wrong.
However, members of the House of Representatives are required by the U.S. Constitution to be a U.S. citizen for 7 years before they can be elected. So even if a bunch of idiots elected a non-U.S. citizen to prove how woke they are, the courts would have a say.
Senators are required to have been a U.S. citizen for 9 years.
Although there seems to be no prohibition against members of Congress holding multiple citizenships in different nations. 
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Take the walls down and use .50 cal machine guns for any human crossing the border, either way, that is not a designated federal border site, barring other circumstances or instantances that may pertain that I am not aware of. As for tunnels, that has been an issue since Man has learned to dig, even thousands of years ago, tunnels were used in warfare, such as breaching a sieged, walled city.
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Before resorting to machine guns I’d probably start with a law stating that anyone crossing the boarder illegally will permanently lose their right to US citizenship and/or legal temporary worker status for themselves and their children. First offense is immediate deportation. Second offense is jail time followed by deportation.
Though we would need to also improve the system for granting legal temporary worker status for migrant farm workers since our agricultural system seems unable to function on US citizen labor alone.
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I’d start with not prosecuting 74 year old men for shooting back when a gang of illegals shoot AKs at them.
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According to Willie Nelson
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Amen to that
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It is time to put them out of business and protect our borders .
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Put the cartels out of business, take over Mexico, make it a state, then all we have to do is protect the Panama Canal. I don’t think that anybody could dig a tunnel under it. The problem is the cartels are needed to supply our “elite” with their drugs ( think Hunter ) . The media and the politicians need the drugs coming in for their talking points. I believe that was the point of the “war on drugs” to give politicians something to promise voters to win their favor. When alcohol was relegalized in the late '30’s Marijuana was than made illegal because they needed something for talking points. The ban on alcohol, wasn’t working the way they wanted. Nixon’s war on drugs was and is a farce … created and kept alive for political gain.
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You really want to add that mess to the Union? 
There’s a reason South Korea doesn’t want to re-unite with North Korea.
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If the cartels were gone it could be a great winter vacation destination .Sure it would take some cleaning up but I’m sure some entrepreneurs could make it livable, vacationable. I mean look at our west coast now. We wouldn’t have to worry about illegals from South America or china etc. invading our southern border. With the cartels gone we would be left with Mexican Citizens. What I’ve seen of Mexican Citizens are honest hard working, peaceful people. It’s the cartels that are evil, and I believe we could rid a new southern state of them.
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I’d like to see us prove we can clean up and take care of our own messes here before volunteering to clean up other countries messes. We don’t have the greatest cleaning record especially with our past attempts in Central America.
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