I agree with you.
Just an elaboration on the worry: I am afraid that when you start breaking down all the things that are actually affected & how they are all so completely intertwined, that there won’t be any part of our socioeconomic structures that survive in the way we know them.
I do also worry about kids/education. Not physically being in school causes both educational and social deficits - when places (like Massachusetts, where I live) are still not sure if schools will truly reopen or stay open in they do, that means kids could lose even more school time than they already have. I wonder if the risks posed to the adults is worth putting everyone college age & younger at permanent disadvantages. Where will most of these adults be in 30-35 years? What about those 25 and under…?
This thread is fascinating to read in hindsight. As of today John Hopkins Uni COVID-19 dashboard showed something in the tune of 11.8 million confirmed worldwide cases, 3mil in US, and the US leads the way in reported fatalities. My top concerns at this juncture would be these, not exclusively ordered but all interconnected:
- keeping my circle safe, resilient and productive.
- the grid takes a hit from a black swan event (solar flare, emp, cyber attack, warfare)
- the healthcare system and workers will be overrun by COVID-19, leading to gaps in all other needed healthcare services.
- the first responders and police will be stretched thin and over whelmed by mobs of useful fools in multiple locations at once, leading to disruption of EMS, fire and police able to respond to homes and businesses. (Happened already)
- Leaders of said useful fools become emboldened enough to set fire to police stations, federal courthouses, businesses and homes of those they disagree with (all have happened already, I know)
To tie it all together, the economy will take time to heal from this, which means more desperation on the horizon, which means more potential for altercations that EMS/Fire/Police may or may not be able to respond to, and hospitals may or may not be able to intake patients for. If the grid goes down in a catastrophic event then all bets are off; we’ve become so intertwined with electricity that it’s absence would be a culling of the developed worlds population.
There are also civil unrest forces at play here that want to see the world burn and/or want to consolidate power in the name of security. Neither pursuits are worthy of our Constitution, and that is why the 2A was number 2 only behind freedom of speech.
That all said, this situation is a stretched out seesaw that balances precariously on our veil of civilization. Be good to each other and help each other, or ask for help if you are in need. This is your time to focus intently on your relationships, your situational awareness, your physical fitness, your skills training, your pile of reading you never prioritized, your preps and resiliency, your spirit and your community. All are positive pursuits if approached rationally and with goodness in your heart.
In other words, we are back to normal, or close to it.
As much as I was concerned initially with health care system overwhelmed, I am not at all concerned with it now.
Draconian measures against law-abiding citizens are also less likely now, thanks to violent rioters and government pandering to the mobs.
Who knows what the future will bring, but every cloud has a silver lining.
I think there are many that will go back to their normal, while others have critically reassessed their priority and are on a different trajectory now due to all this; for better or for worse. For me, and for how absurd it is to say, 2020 has been a good year for me. I was on a path of imbalance and self destruction, but I found a healthier and more tempered self that just needed a shock to come out. I was focused intently on certain things before that seem so absurdly insignificant now.
The hospitals being over whelmed is more of a localized issue because people are keeping their distance, washing hands, cleaning surfaces thoroughly, not coughing on the supermarket carts… As we always should have been doing. If we go back to old normal and everyone is just out and about then be prepared for more infections and more death of at risk people. It’s nothing new to humanity, we’ve been decimated by plagues and flus before and we will again in the future.
Exactly! I’ve said the same thing when I heard Dr.Fauchi speak of handshakes never returning, etc. dramatic changes to the way we live. Laughable and fear-mongering.
Those are my only concerns about the China virus.
These are the trouble, right? What if this happens again in the near future. We can’t just shut the world down for a year. This isn’t likely to be China’s last virus, if history is any indicator.
Triple-masking recommendation tells me that Dr.Fraudachi has no confidence in vaccines.
It tells me, he’s trying to keep in the limelight to continue his way-to-high government paycheck.
So you get a shot or two and you can still get and spread COVID but will not get symptoms. I’m sorry, but that does not sound like a vaccine. Other vaccines and even flu shots help prevent the illness. In other words, a vaccine immunizes you. COVID “vaccines” only hide the disease.
If someone spits on you spit back on them. If you’re in good health the chances of dying from the covid virus is less than the flu. I’ve had the covid virus and the flu kicked me down a lot worse than the covid ever did.
He’s enjoying the magazine covers and first pitches at baseball games. I bet he’s making some good money under the table on-top of his already highest paid government official pay.
Some physicians and politicians have returned to the days of yesteryear. Very similar to the old practice of blowing smoke. Etymology . The expression refers to the once popular medical practice, now fallen into disuse and almost forgotten, of the tobacco smoke enema, in which tobacco smoke was literally blown up a person’s rectum.
Boy now that would be a crappy job. 
@MikeBKY , it’s not exactly the true.
We cannot compare unknown SARS-COV-2 to other infections. Yes, the person vaccinated against Covid-19 may be infected with the virus that causes COVID-19 just before or after vaccination and get sick.
But this happens because the vaccine needs time to process building this immunity. Sometimes it may take few weeks. After that time, your immune system will be ready to fight the virus if you are exposed.
Flu shot work the same. It protects you, but even you are vaccinated you can still spread the flu. Your immune system doesn’t destroy flu in seconds… it takes time and you can spread flu within this time.
The literature I have seen regarding the “vaccine” is that it prevents or minimizes the symptoms of COVID-19 but there is no proof that is stops the person “vaccinated” from getting the virus nor does it prevent them from spreading the virus. This information comes from sources such as Harvard Medical Center, Vanderbilt Medical Center and Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, to name a few.
Like I mentioned, it’s still too early to have knowledge close to other diseases.
Because currently there are 3 different types of Covid-19 vaccine we may have different information about it.
That is the truth about everything relating to these “vaccines.”
- The unnecessary spread of fear
- Isolation
- Misinformation about masks
- Misinformation about herd immunity
- Misinformation about how the virus is spread
- The governments push to vaccinate against it is pitting neighbors and family member against one and other
- The unconstitutional segregation between vaccinated and unvaccinated
- That this is leading towards control by our government (totalitarianism) by requiring vaccine passports
